Lens correction settings

[MikeFromMesa]

Does anyone know if there is some way to set the defaults so that ASP will automatically set the lens correction to ON by default?

As it is now I have to manually select the lens correction for each and every image I bring into ASP (a fair amount of pain) or I have to do this for one image and then copy-and-paste those settings for each other image (also some pain because I then have to manually make sure each image has the correct camera lens set. If image 1 was taken with lens A and I copy those settings to image 2 with lens B, then I now have image 2 set with lens A).

Thanks for any suggestions.

[claudermilk]

I'm not in front of my imaging workstation right now, but yes, there is. Going off memory, you set the tool the way you want, then ewither right-click on it or look inthe Edit menu. There should be a set to default option in there.

[Tadjio]

Just today I put these lines into my DefaultRaw file for my Olympus camera:-

bopt:warpon="true"
bopt:warpresize="true"
bopt:profilemake="Olympus Micro 4/3"
bopt:profilemodel="E-PM1"
bopt:profilelens="Micro 4/3 Zuiko Digital 14-42mm F3.5-5.6 ED"
bopt:lens="Micro 4/3 Zuiko Digital 14-42mm F3.5-5.6 ED"

Of course, this will only work if you only use one lens but for me it overcomes the "Uncalibrated Lens" message.
I guess you could set it for your most popular lens!

[MikeFromMesa]

I'm not in front of my imaging workstation right now, but yes, there is. Going off memory, you set the tool the way you want, then ewither right-click on it or look inthe Edit menu. There should be a set to default option in there.

There are 2 things I am trying to do. First, set some ASP value that will make it, by default, set the lens correction ON and, second, get it to recognize my Sigma 10-20mm f/4-5.6 as what it is (calibrated) and not as a Sigma 10-20mm f3.5 (uncalibrated).

I could find nothing in the Edit menu that will automatically set the lens correction feature to ON. I could set a single image to ON and the copy and paste that setting to the rest of the images, but that would also change the lens to whatever the copied lens setting was and I would just be changing one problem for another every time I have taken a day's images with more than one lens.

I can find nothing that will correct ASP's mistaken idea of what lens I am using for an image. ASP correctly identifies my Canon 15-85 but incorrectly identifies my Sigma 10-20mm and, what is worse, sets it to an uncalibrated lens instead of the calibrated lens I am using.

It just seems frustrating ... The software seems so nice and easy, but then I am forced to go through sometimes a hundred or more images manually setting the lens correction to ON and changing the lens to the correct one. Why ASP does not automatically set lens correction to ON puzzles me.

If I have misunderstood your suggestion, or if I have just missed what you are telling me, please let me know. And thanks.

[MikeFromMesa]

Just today I put these lines into my DefaultRaw file for my Olympus camera:-

bopt:warpon="true"
bopt:warpresize="true"
bopt:profilemake="Olympus Micro 4/3"
bopt:profilemodel="E-PM1"
bopt:profilelens="Micro 4/3 Zuiko Digital 14-42mm F3.5-5.6 ED"
bopt:lens="Micro 4/3 Zuiko Digital 14-42mm F3.5-5.6 ED"

Of course, this will only work if you only use one lens but for me it overcomes the "Uncalibrated Lens" message.
I guess you could set it for your most popular lens!

I will have to look into this. Of course I actually use 2 lenses most of the time (my Canon 15-85 which ASP understands and my Sigma 10-20mm f/4-5.6 which ASP mistakes for another lens) so I don't know that this will do me much good. Still perhaps I can do something with this. Thanks for the suggestion.

BTW - does this automatically set your lens correction feature to ON?

[Tadjio]

does this automatically set your lens correction feature to ON?

I think it's 'bopt:warpon="true"' that does so.

[-cr]

ASP correctly identifies my Canon 15-85 but incorrectly identifies my Sigma 10-20mm and, what is worse, sets it to an uncalibrated lens instead of the calibrated lens I am using.

I understand its often impossible to guess the correct lens, but maybe ASP could be changed to pick the best match from the *calibrated* lenses only?

[B4b5]

If ASP's plain vanilla DefaultRaw.xmp is selecting the correct Make & Model of camera when you supply RAW files that don't have matching .xmp files;
You can make a preset that does only two things:
bopt:warpon="true"
bopt:warpresize="true"
Just apply the preset to all images and you're done...
Turning features on with a preset leaves you with the flexibility to turn settings on/off or any combination that you might want in the future.

[MikeFromMesa]

ASP correctly identifies my Canon 15-85 but incorrectly identifies my Sigma 10-20mm and, what is worse, sets it to an uncalibrated lens instead of the calibrated lens I am using.

I understand its often impossible to guess the correct lens, but maybe ASP could be changed to pick the best match from the *calibrated* lenses only?

To be completely honest I would have thought that that would have been the default operation. If there is some uncertainty about which lens to select and if one of them is supported (and hence probably more commonly used), then why not pick it? If you are going to be wrong, why not try to be wrong the least amount of time?

[MikeFromMesa]

does this automatically set your lens correction feature to ON?

I think it's 'bopt:warpon="true"' that does so.

Turns out that I don't have the same entries in my DefaultRaw file. Not the values (my camera is a Canon 7D so I would expect the values to be different), but no "bopt" entry and no "warpon" or other such entries. All of the file (which is helpfully xml) are different. I will try to see if there is something I can do about it, but it seems odd that I cannot control such things.

[Tadjio]

does this automatically set your lens correction feature to ON?

I think it's 'bopt:warpon="true"' that does so.

Turns out that I don't have the same entries in my DefaultRaw file. Not the values (my camera is a Canon 7D so I would expect the values to be different), but no "bopt" entry and no "warpon" or other such entries. All of the file (which is helpfully xml) are different. I will try to see if there is something I can do about it, but it seems odd that I cannot control such things.

Not the DefaultRaw file but the Camera Default file e.g. DefaultRawOLYMPUS_IMAGING_CORP__E_PM1.xmp
You create it from Settings in the same way as the Raw Default.

[MikeFromMesa]

Not the DefaultRaw file but the Camera Default file e.g. DefaultRawOLYMPUS_IMAGING_CORP__E_PM1.xmp
You create it from Settings in the same way as the Raw Default.

Yes. I can see it now. For me the system named it IMG_0001.CR2.xmp since I am using a Canon and the raw files have a suffix of CR2.

I renamed it as DefaultRaw and copied it back into the defaults folder. That seems to have done it. Of course it still leaves the problem of defining all lenses as that lens, but at least it sets the lens correction feature to ON and it is my most commonly used lens. Thank you very much for your help.

[MikeFromMesa]

Of course it still leaves the problem of defining all lenses as that lens

That turns out to be incorrect after all. I copied some RAW files without the sidecars to a separate folder and opened the folder with ASP. ASP seems to understand that the lens involved is not the lens specified in the DefaultRaw file and corrects it as needed. Well, it doesn't correct it properly since it is still setting it as a Sigma 10-20mm f/3.5 instead of a Sigma 10-20mm f4-5.6, but it does change the lens to Sigma and it does leave the lens correction feature ON.

So you have solved most of my issues. If I can now just find a way to add the Sigma 10-20mm f/3.5 to the database with the same settings as the Sigma 10-20mm f/4-5.6 it will have fixed all of my issues. Either that or just go out and buy the Sigma 10-20mm f/3.5 and use it instead of the f/4-5.6 ...

Thank you again.

[Tadjio]

I copied some RAW files without the sidecars to a separate folder and opened the folder with ASP. ASP seems to understand that the lens involved is not the lens specified in the DefaultRaw file and corrects it as needed. Well, it doesn't correct it properly since it is still setting it as a Sigma 10-20mm f/3.5 instead of a Sigma 10-20mm f4-5.6, but it does change the lens to Sigma and it does leave the lens correction feature ON.
So you have solved most of my issues. If I can now just find a way to add the Sigma 10-20mm f/3.5 to the database with the same settings as the Sigma 10-20mm f/4-5.6 it will have fixed all of my issues. Either that or just go out and buy the Sigma 10-20mm f/3.5 and use it instead of the f/4-5.6 ...
Thank you again.

I'm only a newbie to Bibble/ASP so forgive me if I am confusing you.
Did you see I had another line:- bopt:lens="Micro 4/3 Zuiko Digital 14-42mm F3.5-5.6 ED"
This seems to override the Metadata definition of the lens, so it might solve your problem???

Note that all my entries were generated from ASP using Settings > Save as Camera Default...
(with a little editing afterwards)

I have a Canon too, so you can post me whichever wide-angle lens you don't need...

[MikeFromMesa]

Did you see I had another line:- bopt:lens="Micro 4/3 Zuiko Digital 14-42mm F3.5-5.6 ED"
This seems to override the Metadata definition of the lens, so it might solve your problem???

The appropriate entries for me seem to be the following:

bopt:profilemake="Canon SLR"
bopt:profilemodel="EOS 7D"
bopt:profilelens="Canon EF-S 15-85mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM"
bopt:lens="Canon EF-S 15-85mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM"

What I did was load an unadjusted RAW image, set the lens correction to ON and then did a right-click -> Settings -> Write AfterShot Xmp. I then changed the name to the default raw file and copied it to the default folder. I did not see the direct way to do it, but this seems to have worked well enough. I will continue to play around with this. Perhaps if I set the default lens to the proper Sigma it will only correct for the Canon lens. I'll see ...

As I said the software seems to check the lens after it applies the initial settings because it has then reset the lens to the (almost) correct lens and still left the lens correct set to ON.

I have a Canon too, so you can post me whichever wide-angle lens you don't need...

Good idea. I'll get right on that