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Post by ralittle2 »

I'm sure the answer is an easy one, but I'm new here. I went through the process of editing a video down to where I want it and now wish to burn a DVD. However, when I click on "Share" to create a DVD, it shows that it is longer and larger than will fit on a DVD. The lenght of the edited video is small enough to fit. What obvious thing am I overlooking?

The length of the edited video is about an hour and forty minutes, however when I click on create a DVD, it lists a longer figure, hence why it won't fit.

Thanks,

RAL
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Post by 2Dogs »

Dear Ral,

it hard to tell exactly from what you've described.

First of all, are you dealing with avi clips imported from a miniDV camcorder with a firewire cable? That might be sensible if you need to fit the project onto a single layer DVD. Your best quality output settings might not coincide with any convenient Video Studio default.

You say that you've trimmed the clips and that the whole project is about 1hr 40 minutes. If the program then shows as being longer than that, I would suspect that perhaps your trimming has not properly taken effect - but there could be many other causes.

Please do read the "sticky" at the top of the forum first, and thoroughly assimilate all the steps in the "recommended procedure" it explains. That will steer you clear of the many (and counter-intuitive) pitfalls that Video Studio presents you with - especially if you've read the VS manual or quick start guide! I made that mistake myself.

Having done all that, try a small test burn of a smaller, sample project first, to DVD RW media, before trying something as ambitious as your full monster work.

Then post a response with any problems that arise, but give very specific details of the troubles - otherwise you'll arouse the ire of the curmudgeons....

Good luck!
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Trevor Andrew

Post by Trevor Andrew »

Hi Ral

The amount of video you can fit to a disc is proportional to the bit rate.

When you Share-Create Video File and select Dvd, you used the default template from video studio.
This is designed to fit 60 minutes to a disc at top quality.

If you have 100 minutes of video you will have to reduce the bit rate to compensate.

As a general rule:-

8000 kbps for 60 minutes
6000 kbps for 90 minutes
4000 kbps for 120 minutes.

The audio type also has an effect on the file size, Digital Dolby and Mpeg audio are small compared to Lpcm.

All the Best
Trevor
ralittle2

Post by ralittle2 »

Thanks for your replies, and I apologize for any lack of specifics. When one first gets into an area, it is sometimes hard to know exactly what pertinent info is needed. I will now try to fill in a few blanks.

1. The video is in .avi format, and was initially analog that was converted A>D via my Canon Optura 20 Mini-DV camcorder which was simply being used as a throughput.

2. As to the length of what will fit on a DVD, I'm a bit confused by what the program say and what Trevor mentioned. Initially I had about two hours of video that I dumped to my PC. I edited it down to 1 hour 33 minutes. If I click on make a DVD, it says the project is 6.3 GB and one hour 54 minutes and 6.3GB. It's almost like I've not saved something or not clicked the right button.


3. It appears that with an hour and a half of video then I should just fit to the DVD.

Thanks again,
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Post by 2Dogs »

Hi Ral,

from your information and Trevor's figures, it looks like you could use a video bitrate of between 4000 to 5000 kbps.

This should be fine, bearing in mind the original analogue source.

Don't try to create a DVD directly from clips in your timeline, however. Follow the "recommended procedure" and create a single (large!) project video file first.

You say that 6.3Gb should fit on your disc - which suggests that you are talking about a dual layer disc. A single layer disk can hold 4.35Gb.

My own experience of using my JVC camcorder as a pass-thru analogue to digital device was not good. I got far better results from using a borrowed analogue capture box, which encoded the footage directly to MPEG-2.
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Post by maximus01can »

Hey Ral,

See My post on adjusting bit rate and give that angle a try. Can't hurt. Let DVDShrink do the magic instead of worrying about Bit rates

Cheers,
Max
ralittle2

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Post by ralittle2 »

OK guys, it is time for me to admit that I screwed up. Apparently my problem was caused by not reading the FAQ topic at the top of the forum. I was trying to create a DVD from the timeline after editing it. After I created a Video File, which compressed the video, I was able to then go on and create the DVD with room to spare.

While I will acknowlege my oversight, it does seem a bit dumb for the software to require you to do this. I know video needs to be rendered, but it would seem that it would simply go ahead and do this prior to burning the DVD.

Who knows, maybe I"m off base on this one.

Thanks very much, give me time and I might just learn something.

Cheers,

Ashford
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