Can U lead make 5 vobs from a vor 5 title file ?

Merlin_lll · Post by **Merlin_lll** » Tue Nov 29, 2005 11:48 pm

My demo expired before had need to do this...so before I buy a dvd authoring prog...I need find out.

Ulead Movie factory 4, does it work with vro files. Will it turn a single vor file from My Panasonic eh50 dvd/hdd combo on dvd-ram and transferred onto PC, containing 5 titles into 5 separate vob files ? No doubt called 001 002 etc but might it name them with the title …can but wish !

TMPGenc DVD Author is it better at the above than Ulead. or perhaps Nero dvd author ...can one ask this !

Which is best at giving control over font sizes.
Which gives choices of backgrounds in that I want to use my own generated backgrounds.
Which has most accurate controls on marking chapters etc.
Which is most user friendly. wizards etc to lessen knowledge req'd.

Merlin_lll

ploggy · Post by **ploggy** » Wed Nov 30, 2005 8:04 am

importing 5 VROs (titles) will not result in 5 vobs. MovieFactory automatically generates the VOBs so you dont have any control in them. im sure about the technical details but you can read this as a start:

http://www.doom9.org/index.html?/dvd-structure.htm

For the features that you are looking for, DVD WorkShop2 have it. You can create menus from scratch using your own backgrounds and audio file and have control on how you can navigate the menus (linking).

sjj1805 · Post by **sjj1805** » Wed Nov 30, 2005 11:41 am

The Number of VOB files has nothing to do with the number of titles in your project. Think of a a VOB file as being just ONE huge VOB file of the entire DVD.

This VOB file is then for technical reasons split up into chunks so that no seperate chunk is greater than approx 1GB in size.

As your Home Made DVD will be going onto a 4.3GB disk (OK it says 4.7 on the label) you get 4 x 1gb VOB's plus a smaller 5th one.

If you only have a small project you may only get one or two VOBs.

Take a look on a commercial 9GB DVD and you will see that also contains several VOBs all approx 1GB in size plus one last smaller one.

Merlin_lll · Post by **Merlin_lll** » Wed Nov 30, 2005 11:39 pm

Ploggy and sjj1805 thanks for helping out here
….Ells bells ! This isn’t as straightforward as I had hoped then.

My wish was that I write 5 different titles (e.g. Fairford airshow 2005, Hungary F1 2005, life in the undergrowth, Riverdance, Battle of Britain doc) to a dvd-ram from my Panny eh50, get them onto the PC , edit the ads out (easier than on the Panny , then put them into 5 separate folders called airshows, F1, wildlife, stage shows and WW2 aviation respectively. When I have enough wildlife I write a dvd-r.

I found that the dvd-ram had one vro file which held my 5 titles, indicated to the Panny in the ifo and bup files. These were e.g. Mangr.bup and not to the liking of Nero. Unless the newest version accepts them ?

Advice these last few days from Panasonic was get their DVD Movie Author prog which would divide up the vor and generate 5 files each as one of my 5 titles.

Alas this doesn’t seem true now.

What is being said here is that in my example a 3Gb wildlife title would be three vob files each 1Gb, and the last one would perhaps also have a bit of the title following on, in this case the Riverdance show… so vobs don’t stop/start at title divisions…but at 1Gb intervals.

Now if I were to go instead for creating mpg, would that be different ?

Panasonic tell me that if I were to write instead to dvd-rw and not dvd-ram, the 5 titles would end up as 5 mpg files, or did they say vob files. Each file being of the one title only. That way I can pigeonhole them on the PC into the subject folders until I am ready to write a dvd-r of the one subject matter. Is that correct ?

Is DVDWorkshop 2 able to make single video with audio combined files of each title, or are all authoring progs blessed with the inability to open a vor bup and ifo and output a vob or mpg purely of each title. Sounds like the nature of vob disallows this but what of mpg ?

How best can I get say 5 titles off the panny and onto PC as 5 files representing the 5 titles in their entirety, 1 file per title. Edit the ads out then save them to folders for later dvd-r writing.

Merlin_lll

sjj1805 · Post by **sjj1805** » Thu Dec 01, 2005 3:44 am

The Panasonic eh50 records in MPEG2 format.
How are you getting your videos from your DVD recorder into your computer, I imagine you are using the s-video connection.

Your alternative is to burn a DVD-RW disc on your Panasonic then extract the videos with the DVD Import function.

Either way you are handling MPEG files which can suffer out of synch issues if you start to cut out the adverts and insert transitions where they join back together again. (Go for straight cuts - or use a specialist MPEG Editor such as Womble)

Your best bet is to save the programs as individual MPEG files on your hard drive suitably named and filed so that you can locate and identify them until you have sufficient material to make a DVD.

maddrummer3301 · Post by **maddrummer3301** » Thu Dec 01, 2005 5:48 am

Hi,
Don't think that a VOB file is one complete mpeg file. A vob file is a container file and can hold more than one mpeg file as long as the mpeg files have the same attributes.

If you put any video onto a DVD-RAM it's in -VR format. That is also the same format the Panasonic recorder uses on the internal harddisk.

On a Dvd-Ram disk all the mpeg2 file(s) are in one master container file in -VR format.
Panasonic is saying use a dvd-rw because it will only write onto
a dvd-rw in DVD-VIDEO mode which has the vob file mode structure. You can do the same using a dvd-r disk.

Also check the Panasonic web site for the latest "Firmware" updates for that recorder. I updated the firmware on mine and now it can read DVD+R will no problems. Previously I would have to always change the booktype to dvd-rom when burning for the panasonic unit to recognize the dvd.

MovieFactory 4 with the latest updates can import from dvd-ram.
The trial version has a slight bug (along with the original release).
A workaround to the bug is to copy the contents of the ram disk to
the harddrive and import from the harddisk or share the dvd reader and map a drive letter back to it using MS networking. Then import the dvd from the new networked drive letter. It's still fast when importing.

Hope this helps,

MD

Merlin_lll · Post by **Merlin_lll** » Thu Dec 01, 2005 11:31 pm

Sjj1805
I am getting my recordings onto the Pc from the panny EH50 by dubing them to dvd-ram, then reading that on the PC, copying them onto the PC HDD and using VideoReDo to edit the adverts out. VideoRedo I saw nothing but praise for and its strength is in no audio/video sync issues if you run footage through its fix option first.
Useful as I have lots of vhs and s-vhs, and Hi8 to capture.

As you say, save the footage on the PC HDD as mpeg files suitably named, this I plan to do.

On the Panasonic EH50, I wrote a 1hour prog recorded in XP to dvd-rw and finalised it, just to see what it became. I ended up with six vob files, four of 1Gb, a 12Mb and a 54Kb, along with a VIDEO_TS.BUP AND VIDEO_TS.IFO both 14Kb (latter the info and former the backup of the ifo ). Also had a VTS_01_0.IFO and its backup bup file both 48Kb. In total 10 files for 1 program !

As such if I were to keep this for the program, I would name a folder with this in. If I were to edit this in VideoRedo I can save it as vob or mpeg, I then get one file, in theory.., after I run it through DVD Decrypter to fuse the vobs together, before VideoReDo,…as VideoReDo loses a fraction of a second audio on the joints if not.

That file I can then name , lot easier to handle single files.

Is there another prog that turns the vobs into one file, allows accurate edits and fixes sync. Womble had good press bur VideoReDo better. I am dabbling with the jointing option on it at present, seems to reject an edit when trying to go to the next vob but the edit does get made, just need try dvd decrypter to get smooth joints next time.

Maddrummer,,,thanks for the advice also.

Merlin_lll