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slippalong · Post by **slippalong** » Mon Nov 21, 2005 8:17 pm

Hi all.
I am a complete novice at this video capturing but with the help of forums hopefully ond day I will get a watchable dvd from a video. I have one question for now and that is how do I set my MPEG2 capture for 720--576 pal. I can find 352--288 pal and 640--480 ntsc but no 720--576.

Post by **Ken Berry** » Mon Nov 21, 2005 8:57 pm

In order to be able to give any sort of meaningful answer, you need to tell us a few things: what are you capturing -- digital or analogue video? What from? Using what? How is the capture device (digital camera, external box?) hooked up to the computer? What are your computer specifications?

Choptop · Post by **Choptop** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 3:58 am

It seem a fairly legitimate question without knowing anything but he wants PAL specs.
I looked at my VS9 "create video file" and there is no option for PAL not even in the "custom" library.
simple question , how do you export to PAL?

Choptop · Post by **Choptop** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 4:05 am

I nosed around some more, I found an option for PAL
in the "create video file" / "custom" / "options" / "compression" / "media type" pull down box that allows you to save to PAL...

Post by **Ken Berry** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 6:27 am

I know what he wants, but it is impossible to give a sensible answer without knowing what he is doing. We don't even know whether he is in a PAL country or NTSC!

When I (who live in a PAL country) click on Share > Create Video File, I am presented with a wide variety of possible templates to use: PAL DV, PAL DVD, PAL MPEG-1, PAL MPEG-2 etc, plus a Custom key where I can adjust things the way I want. My MPEG-1 format is said to be 352 x288 and my MPEG-2 720 x 576.

But without knowing the things I asked about, we cannot begin to work out what the realistic choices for him should be or what he might be doing right or wrong...

And while I think of it, another question is what he gets as choices when he selects Share > Create Video File > Custom > Options > General > Frame Size... and clicks on the drop-down arrow.

THoff · Post by **THoff** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 8:32 am

Those are all output settings, which can of course be completely different from the format that you capture in.

That brings us back to Ken's original request for more information -- slippalong, what device are you capturing from, how is it connected to your PC, and which capture plugin are you using? Please be aware that not all capture devices support DVD resolution captures.

slippalong · Post by **slippalong** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 8:55 pm

Hi all.
I am totally confused now but thanks to you who have replied.At the moment Iam just navigating around ulead version 9 upgrade to see what is what but if it is any help I have an ADS Tech istant video usb capture device with red white and yellow audio/video lead connected to a Pal vhs video player.I have read some tutorials saying that as I live in the UK my capture settings should be Pal 720-576 but if I go into capture,set mpeg format it gives options from 320-240 default upto 640-480 but no 720-576 and I was wondering why 720-576 was not there.

heinz-oz · Post by **heinz-oz** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 9:13 pm

USB is not fast enough to give you better frame settings. A friend of mine had his DV cam connected via the USB port and was only able to cature these small frame sizes. On top of that, he could only capture at 18fps.

What you are seeing is not a limitation of VS but of your capture device.

slippalong · Post by **slippalong** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 9:46 pm

Thanks for the reply,So if my usb device isn't man enough for capturing at 720 576 any suggestons as to what set up would be a good enough.

Post by **Ken Berry** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 10:23 pm

When did you buy the Ads Tech device? I note from the Ads Tech website that they released in March this year version 3.0 of their accompanying software which contained amongst other things VS 9 SE DVD and Movie Factory 3 SE. If this came with your device, you have the latest version, and it should also have contained the Ads Capture Wizard 3.5 software, which I assume is meant to be used to capture, with the editing and authoring to be done in VS 9 and/or Movie Factory SE. Does the capture wizard offer larger formats? What does the user manual say about capture formats?

THoff · Post by **THoff** » Wed Nov 23, 2005 1:06 am

Make sure your USB port is a USB 2.0 port, not USB 1.1, and that there are no other USB 1.1 devices plugged into it or a hub that may be sitting between the port on the computer and the camcorder -- the latter will force the hub to run at USB 1.1 speeds.

As inz-oz pointed out, USB 1.1 is inadequate for full-sized DVD-quality captures, it just doesn't have the bandwidth. USB 2.0 can do this, but obviously both your computer and the capture device have to support USB 2.0 speeds, and you have to make sure that you aren't slowing down the USB 2.0 port to USB 1.1 speeds by plugging slower devices into the same bus.

heinz-oz · Post by **heinz-oz** » Wed Nov 23, 2005 1:45 am

THoff wrote:Make sure your USB port is a USB 2.0 port, not USB 1.1, and that there are no other USB 1.1 devices plugged into it or a hub that may be sitting between the port on the computer and the camcorder -- the latter will force the hub to run at USB 1.1 speeds.

As inz-oz pointed out, USB 1.1 is inadequate for full-sized DVD-quality captures, it just doesn't have the bandwidth. USB 2.0 can do this, but obviously both your computer and the capture device have to support USB 2.0 speeds, and you have to make sure that you aren't slowing down the USB 2.0 port to USB 1.1 speeds by plugging slower devices into the same bus.

That might be so, THoff, I'm no expert on this. When my friend had his problem, he was definitely using a USB2 port and there were no other devices plugged into any of the other USB ports. His camera was a recent model also, Panasonic. He just could not get the system to capture at full frame/frame rate of 720 x 576, 25 fps PAL. Once he went to a firewire cable, using the iLink port on the camera, no problem.

sjj1805 · Post by **sjj1805** » Wed Nov 23, 2005 1:58 am

slippalong wrote: Hi all.
I am a complete novice at this video capturing but with the help of forums hopefully ond day I will get a watchable dvd from a video. I have one question for now and that is how do I set my MPEG2 capture for 720--576 pal. I can find 352--288 pal and 640--480 ntsc but no 720--576.

Slippalong,

I know there have been lots of replies but I only just got to this one.
You are asking about the capture phase not the rendering phase which comes later.

Currently you cannot see the required PAL 720-576.
I noticed the same the first time I installed VS9 even though I had specified a United Kingdom (PAL) selection during the installation phase.
After installation the only input format was strangley enough NTSC with no means of changing it.

No problem though, the first time I hooked up my camcorder (with a ieee1394 firewire cable) Video Studio auto detected the correct format.
From then on the only setting available is the PAL setting - it seems to default to whatever was last used.

Incidentally it is better to capture in DV format rather than MPEG.
There are several posts already regarding that issue

THoff · Post by **THoff** » Wed Nov 23, 2005 3:18 am

heinz-oz, I'm not saying Firewire isn't the way to go for DV camcorders, but if it's a separate external capture device that uses USB, you really don't have a choice...

slippalong · Post by **slippalong** » Wed Nov 23, 2005 8:11 pm

Hi all.
I am now totally confused which at my age isn't surprising.Anyway I have found out that my ads tech capturing device does not support 720-576 although it is connected to usb 2 so it looks as though I am in the market for a new capture device possibly a firewire capture with full mpeg specs and frame sizes.Anyone know where to get good advice on what to get?I think my pc should support most things,it is a

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