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Multiple DVD Dual Layers

Post by mtchp »

I am planning to create a football highlight video and record it to a dual layer DVD. We want to create and sell multiple copies, 50 or so. Is there a company that will do this? Can we do it with a home dvd burner with the same quality? Any idea about cost?
Bobm03
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Post by Bobm03 »

A production run of 50 copies would not even be considered by a commercial DVD duplicating service. The usual minimum run is generally 500 at about C$2/disc with extra charges for jewel case and artwork.

But, it can be done. Read on.

One of the young players on our rugby team is a teacher at a local school with access to a wide variety of audio/visual tools. Because the team has had videos made of most games for the past 15 years, he took it upon himself three years ago to make a video highlight "reel" for presentation at our yearly windup in November.

This year, I burned his videos onto DVD to be given out at the annual meeting in April to encourage attendance. It took several evenings, but I burned all 50 of them on my own machine using UMF3. He made the inserts and put them into 15c jewel cases. The only poor part in the whole presentation was the labelling of the DVD, but my wife did a nice printing job with a Sharpie marker.

Total cost was about C$ 50 for the blank DVD-R discs and the jewel cases. We donated our time.

All you really need is time.

Special note: Our club's 25th anniversary is next year and we're asembling a comemorative DVD for the event....

http://www.brandonbarbariansrugby.org/

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Unless it is completely necessary, I would try to keep the video to a single layer.

The reason for this is that dual-layer disks are far less compatible than single-layer disks (which are bad enough as it is). If you absolutely have to have the extra disk capacity, then use DVD+DL media with a drive that allows bitsetting so that the drive appears to be a DVD-ROM.
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Post by DVDDoug »

and record it to a dual layer DVD.
I agree with Thoff.

I don't know what percentage of players can play DVD+/-DLs, but I do know that some players can't play "burned" DVDs at all!!! VideoHelp.com says that DVD-R (the most compatible) will play on 93% of players. So best case, using using DVD-R (single layer), the odds are that a few of your customers won't be able to play the DVD.

My theory is - Don't make a dual-layer unless you know it's headed for a player that will play it!

If you do sell a dual-layer verson, you should plan on offering a single-layer version too. It could be a 2-DVD set, or a lower-resolution version, or even a reduced-content version... But if you are not giving them away, you'll want to have an alternative to giving a refund to people who can't play it.
Can we do it with a home dvd burner with the same quality?
Yes... Assuming the DVD player can play it, you will get the same video quality/resolution as a commercial disc... Except for the dual-layer issue which means that if your program is more than about an hour, you'll have to use a less-than-maximum bit-rate to fit on a single layer. But, you shouldn't really start seeing the effects of a lower bitrate 'till you exceed 1.5 hours. (Your homemade single-layer DVD will have the same quality as a pressed single-layer DVD.)

Burned DVD's do have data-defects (maybe pressed DVDs too?). But, the player's error-correction logic can usually completely correct these errors.

One more thing... AKAIK, none of the Ulead products allow you to manually select the layer-change point. With commercial dual-layer DVDs, they can position the layer-change at a scene-change etc, where the slight pause is less noticable.

And, one more thing... It's technically impossible to put CSS copy protection on a burned DVD. I think you can put Macrovision (analog copy-protection) on it, if you have the very expenisve license ($15,000 or so). And there is also CPRM copy-protection which will work, but I don't know of any home-software that has it.
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