Problem putting "Ripped" video into VS9 & MSPr

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mathis
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Problem putting "Ripped" video into VS9 & MSPr

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Hello,
I video taped a meeting Saturday (for an Infomerical -- Argh!) and there were two DVDs shown at the meeting. I explained to the hosts that if I could get a copy of their DVDs, I could put it together with this video. They gave me both of them. They are commercial DVDs. I was able to "rip" them with VS9, but everytime I attempt to view the mpg with VS9, VS9 stops responding. I can get them into MSPro 8, but it sits there for a couple of minutes before it realizes that it's supposed to do something. I got them into the timeline where they belonged in the Video that I had shot, and it set there for about two minutes before it inserted it. I did get sound once when I clicked on the file to import it into MSPro 8 and it went to preview, but the video didn't show up. Thinking the problem might be because of the fact it's a professional Copyrighted DVD, I grabbed a DVD that I had created with VS 9 and it did the same thing. When I play the timeline, it gives me the last frame of the video I shot and the bar moves across the DVD video to the end of it and then what I shot starts again at the end.
Although I have had VS 9 for a while, I have never attempted to rip a DVD before. I have managed to get everything into the timeline, but every time I move the line over the ripped file, it hangs.

Does anyone have any ideas on how I can get this to work? I should have had it completed by Sunday afternoon, but have been fighting with it all week.

Thanks.
Mathis...
heinz-oz

Post by heinz-oz »

Sounds like corrupted mpegs or non compliant files.

Impossible to say any more without any detail.
rwindeyer

Post by rwindeyer »

I don't suggest or use this for piracy purposes, but DVDFab can rip CSS-protected DVDs. This may help you get a usable copy.
http://www.dvdidle.net/download.htm
mathis
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Post by mathis »

Thanks, rwindeyer, I'll give it a try, but I don't understand why the DVD that I created myself would do the same thing as a commercial DVD. I didn't copyright protect the DVD I made (that I know of, and I have made copies of it with Roxio Easy CD Creator's CD Copier) I also just copied the VDO file over and renamed it .mpg, and got the same results.
rwindeyer wrote:I don't suggest or use this for piracy purposes, but DVDFab can rip CSS-protected DVDs. This may help you get a usable copy.
http://www.dvdidle.net/download.htm
erock1
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Post by erock1 »

mathis,
if you were able to use the insert DVD contents utility from VS9 then the DVD isn't copyright protected. You said you copied the VOB files and renamed them *.mpeg. You should do what heinz-0 suggested and provide more info. Look at the full properties of the VOB files you renamed and post what they are
mathis
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Post by mathis »

erock1,
They are:
Format: 24Bits, [720x480], 4:3
Compression: NTSC DVD, Lower Field First, 6500 kbps
Comp Ratio: 2%
Frame Rate: 29.970 frames/sec
Total Frames: 17779
Audio Format: Dolby Digital Audio
Attributes: 48000 Hz
Automation:

I did find something on this board about Dolby and capturing, but don't remember what it was. Could that be the problem? I'm at work now so I haven't had a chance to try the download suggested.

Thanks.
Mathis...

erock1 wrote:mathis,
if you were able to use the insert DVD contents utility from VS9 then the DVD isn't copyright protected. You said you copied the VOB files and renamed them *.mpeg. You should do what heinz-0 suggested and provide more info. Look at the full properties of the VOB files you renamed and post what they are
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Post by DVDDoug »

I recently used a program called SUPER (Free!!!) to convert a "troublesome" VOB to an MPEG flle that Ulead would accept.

for this particulr VOB, SUPER was the best tool I found. BUT, it re-coded the MPEG (bad!)... And although I could open the resulting MPEG with Video Studio or DVD Workshop, Ulead wanted to re-code it again (bad - bad!).

I had to use a couple of other programs to extract the audio (LPCM in my case) and to make 4 or 5 VOBs to one big VOB.

There is another free program called VOBedit. You can use it to de-multiplex the audio and video so that you can deal with them separately.

I tried several "VOB to MPEG" conversion programs. Some of them would only make low-bitrate SVCD compatible MPEGs, and others would make an MPEG that Ulead would not "accept."
mathis
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Post by mathis »

Okay, I tried DVDFab, but it didn't work either. I got the same result. Since I ran out of time, I just placed the DVD in my table top DVD player and used my Analog device to capture it. I'll try to use DVDDoug's suggestions later.

Thanks for all your help.
Mathis...
rwindeyer wrote:I don't suggest or use this for piracy purposes, but DVDFab can rip CSS-protected DVDs. This may help you get a usable copy.
http://www.dvdidle.net/download.htm
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