Encoded video falls outside of 'Title Safe Area Margin'

Mr. Sparkle · Post by **Mr. Sparkle** » Fri Jan 14, 2005 10:23 pm

Here is a noobie question.

I encoded a .mov file to mpg2 (NTSC) using TMPGEnc 3.0 XPress. The mpg has a display aspect ratio of 4:3 and a resolution of 352 x 240.

When I used DVD Workshop, everything rendered the way I wanted (menus, etc), but I found that the video has 'spilled-out' past the 'title safe area margin' so it appears cropped all around the image.

If I live in an NTSC world, how do I get the entire image within the 'title safe area'? from within DVD Workshop of TMPGEnc?

Regards

Mr. Sparkle · Post by **Mr. Sparkle** » Sat Jan 15, 2005 10:57 pm

It took a day of reading and playing...to know...how impatient I am. Had I taken the time (or read the manual) I would have chosen to use a Resize filter in TMPGEnc XPress.

In DVD Workshop though, it would seem that even though I selected NTSC DVD from the Disc Template Manager (720x420) the original video remained at 880x660 but is fit into a 720x420 window...hence the missing parts of the video. Is there anything within Workshop that will allow me to apply a resize filter?

I had incorrectly said that the original footage was 352x240...ooops.

Regards

Mipmap · Post by **Mipmap** » Sat Jan 15, 2005 11:46 pm

This happened to me when I made my first disc. I tested it out on two different DVD players and 4 different NTSC TVs. I found that each one had diffferent amounts of the menu spilling outside the edges of the screen. The older the TV the more seemed to fall outside the edges.

Mr. Sparkle · Post by **Mr. Sparkle** » Tue Jan 18, 2005 7:59 pm

So you think it is the TV? Well...

In a little experiment I re-encoded some video (originally shot at 880 x 660 Quick Time).

Encoded at 720 x 480, 704 x 480, 352 x 480, 352 x 240. An do you know what? When I used each movie in a test Workshop project and burnt it to a dvd, the first movie and the second movie were displaying ok. The 3rd and 4th movies were cropped and enlarged...so they were no good.

And yet, if I encode an entire series of movies at 720 x 480...they drop outside the frame when a menu is built around them in Workshop. I don't get it.

Any suggestions would be great.

Regards

pauley · Post by **pauley** » Sat Jan 22, 2005 11:55 pm

I might be missing something, but 480x720 will go outside of the safe zones. Menu items should be within the Title safe area, and action should stay within the action safe zone. Your video will extend outside of this. This is normal behaviour. If you hook up your DV cam to a TV, you should see the same cropping (i.e. the video in the camcorder's LCD screen will show more than that on your TV).

Or, are you saying that you do have everything inside the title safe area, and everything still is being cropped on the tv?

Pauley

Mr. Sparkle · Post by **Mr. Sparkle** » Mon Jan 24, 2005 7:38 pm

About 10% of the total image is outside the overscan area.

The original material was 880x660. I converted it to 640x430 which was output to DVD scaling of 720x480. It would seem that DVD players automatically (automagically) centres and scales streams at 720x480. So a 640x430 image will fit nicely with no overscan overlap.

I don't know exactly what I mean...but through trial and error, I was able to get the output I needed.

Thanks to all.