VS6 Sound on Analog Camcorder but no sound on capture

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VS6 Sound on Analog Camcorder but no sound on capture

Post by Alleluia »

I have Pentium 4 Pc with 512 Meg.
I am transferring images and audio from Sony Analog Camcorder TRV 208E via Belkin Hi-Speed USB 2.0 DVD Creator.

Images are coming through OK to my PC. However there is no sound. :(

Lead provided by Belkin for audio link has 1 black plug at one end (audio
I think) and 2 plugs red and white at other.
Belkin device has 2 sockets 1 yellow and other is video in.
My Camcorder has an A/V out.
:?: How do I connect leads between camcorder and remaining single socket on Belkin device.
:oops: Thanks in advance for all advice and ideas. PTL
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Post by DiscCoasterPro »

Hi, if you only have two jacks on the belkin one video in and one video out, you may have to connect your audio out from the camcorder to your line in directly to your PC sound card. I'm not certain, but it seems like the only option if I understand what you are saying. The yellow should be video in, however, and the other may in fact be audio out to your sound card if your camcorder has one line out that carrys both signals.

dcp
Alleluia

Post by Alleluia »

Hi DCP

Thanks for your response...
I may not have made myself clear. This is an image of the Belkin device ..
at

http://catalog.belkin.com/IWCatProductP ... _Id=144533

I hope this clarifies... still not sure where the leads are to be attached.

Thanks for all your help..
heinz-oz

Post by heinz-oz »

The lead you describe with the one black plug on one and a red and whit on the other end is in fact a sound cable (stereo in, mono out) RCA plugs are color coded like that. Red = right, white = left, black = mono. A video RCA lead is yellow.

We have had a number of people posting here with problems with a device like yours. Hope it will work for you.

If you expect to get high quality DVD video out of this, I'm afraid you are in for a rude awakening. here is an exerpt from the spec's on the Belkin web site:
• Supports 30 frames per second at resolutions of 352x288 and 640x480

That is not DVD standard compliant. The 352 x 288 is PAL VCD frame size. These devices basically streams the analog video signal coming in via the RCA or SVHS connector on one side into your PC via the USB connection. The other cable, as I mentioned above is to connect the sound out from your player to the sound in on your sound card. Does your sound in have an RCA connector?
heinz-oz

Post by heinz-oz »

Found something else a bit odd:

Sound Card, speaker, and microphone required for audio recording

Don't know what to do with that?
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Post by DiscCoasterPro »

Yeah, it looks like from the picture the square shaped connector may be the video, and the round one may be your audio. Black from audio cable goes to whichever one of those leads are not yellow. The other end of the provided red/white audio go to your camcorder audio. If you dont have two inputs on the camcorder you need a different cable or an adapter (again) to go mono to mono. The yellow input is for video from your camcorder.

I'm pretty new to all this analog to digital stuff also, but I can say that I have had nothing but trouble using USB devices to capture. What percentage is from not knowing what the heck I'm doing versus what percentage is from USB just not being the hot setup for analog capture, I'm not sure of.

I will say this, I bought a Canopus 300 converter (the least expensive I think is the model 55) that inputs via firewire, and I'm the same dummy that was using the USB, and now everything works great! :D so .. I dunno. It sure did cost more, but in the long run I may have saved my computer from a horrible death by hammer! :)

good luck!
dcp
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Post by Alleluia »

I'm posting another message as I don't think I'm making things clear..
here goes..
Here is a summary. I have a Sony Digital Camcorder CCD TRV208E Pal from which I want to download pictures and sound to my PC using Belkin device F5U228ea.
I can download the images by attaching the black plug from the Belkin device to the S Video Out on my Camcorder. However, I am not getting any sound.
I am then left with a yellow plug coming from the Belkin device.

Belkin have supplied an extension lead that has an A/V out at one end that goes into my Camcorder. On the other end I have a white and red connectors(male) Where do I put these?
Where does the yellow connector from the Belkin go to?
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Post by Ron P. »

Ok SVideo is just Video, so you're not going to get the audio.
The picture provided shows a red and white RCA composite cable. These would be for your audio. You should have an audio output on your camcorder. Plug them into the audio outputs.

Does your camcorder have both Left and Right (Stereo) audio output? If so plug them into those RCA jacks. The other end looks like it should plug into the round composite jack on the device. Now I'm talking about the end that has 2 cords on it. The square one, (to the top of the picture) is SVideo, the other appears for audio.

Have you tried that?
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Post by heinz-oz »

You are not making things clearer, you confuse us more. What turned your analog camcorder to digital in between your first and last post?

The yellow connector is for video, the black for sound. What does Belkin have to say to this?

Experience has shown that the USB devices are no good for video capture at full frame DVD quality. If your camcorder is digital, get yourself a firewire card and cable and never look back.
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Post by DVDDoug »

Here's what it looks like to me...

You're gonna need another cable for the audio. None of the connectors pictured will plug into your sound card!!!!

I don't know what you need for the camera end... You'll have to figure that out. But, the computer-end needs a stereo mini-phone plug. This is the same connector as your soundcard's speaker connector, and the same connector thats used on portable-stereo headphones.

You should be able to find the right cable at Radio Shack, or any audio/video store... maybe even Wall-Mart.

The audio does not connect through the Belkin device. The divice has 3 connectors: USB out, S-Video-in, Composite-Video-in. You can use either the composite or S-Video input.

Traditionally -
Yellow = Video
Red = Audio Right
White (or black) = Audio Left

You do need a soundcard, but you don't need a microphone. You don't need speakers to capture the sound either... just to hear it as it's being recorded or played-back. :wink:

You don't need that red-white-black mono-to-stereo Y-adapter, unless your camera is mono. In that case, it could be used to get sound out of both speakers... If the connectors are right for your camera and the other cable you're going to need.

The good news is, that there are not as many audio standards as video standards. The audio signal from your camera will work with your soundcard's LINE (or AUX) input. You simply need the correct cable/connectors. There are and there are only three connector-types that you are likely to run into:

RCA (AKA Phono. Like your red-white-black cable.)
Mono mini-phone
Stereo mini-phone
Alleluia

Post by Alleluia »

Thanks everyone...
DVD DOUG, Heinz-Oz, Vidoman, DiscCoasterPro... 8)
I think I've cracked it...
By helping me keep up the momentum.... :) :idea:
...I tracked down this link that shows exactly what I need...

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/window ... yStep.aspx

I need to plug a mini-jack stereo adapter into the female Line In jack on the sound card of your computer. This mini jack takes a standard Red audio jack (Right) and a White audio jack (Left). :D

Shame Belkin could'nt have mentioned this in their Manuel...

I'll be in touch to let you know I how it goes...

Alleluia PTL
Alleluia

Post by Alleluia »

Of course, I meant... 'my' computer not 'your'

Plug the mini-jack stereo adapter into the female Line In jack on the sound card of my computer...
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