Cropping objects

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timtak
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Cropping objects

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The crop function seems always to applly to the whole image, rather than to object selected. There is an option to apply to the currently selected image but then the whole image is cropped to that one object, rather than giving me the ability to crop an object.

Similarily it does not seem to be possible (or I have not found a way) to cut a area out of an object using the lasso.

Other that is than by using the eraser.

Please tell me I am wrong!

Tim
heinz-oz

Post by heinz-oz »

Happy to oblige, "You are wrong!"

Which version do you use? What exactly are you trying to do? Did you take the PI beginners workshop http://www.pircnet.com/? Did you look at the Ulead learning center http://www.ulead.com/learning/pi.htm or do you expect one of us to teach you the basics by answering your post?[/url]
timtak
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Post by timtak »

Dear Heinz

Thank you for your immediate response.

I use version 8.

No, I did not take the PI beginners worshop at that commercial site. I had a look at the tutorials though.

I do not consider myself to be a beginner. But perhaps this is a begginers question for you.

I looked through all the posts on this forum, and searched for "crop".

I would not say that I "expect" to be to be taught the basics, but I would be grateful if someone would be so kind as to answer my question, basic or not.

Cheers,

Tim
heinz-oz

Post by heinz-oz »

Ok, let's see how we can answer your simple questions.

1. Yes, the crop tool only applies to the whole image. After all, that's what it is suposed to do, crop an image.
2. There are a lot better and easier ways to extract an object out of an image than lasso or eraser. I always use the mask tool for it. It allows me to, easily and quickly, extract anything from a photo or other image, to be used in another image. I do a lot of collages, mixing several photos or parts of photos, on one background.

A sample of what I mean you can find here http://heinz-oz.id.au/sample.jpg. This is the scaled down version of one of my collages. It is printed in high resolution on A4 size photo paper and comes out just perfect. To extract the inserts from a number of photos and to paste them ont this image did not take more than maybe half an hour of my time.

I suggest you look at the "commercial" site you knocked back before. The beginners workshop offered there is free of charge and covers all the tools of PI. It will take you from some basic tasks to complex image editing and right up to creating a web site in PI.

I had used PS prior to PI and thought there must be better ways of doing what I want. I was not a novice. The beginners work shop gave me a lot of insight and understanding and is well worth the effort.
timtak
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Post by timtak »

Dear Heinz

Thank you very much indeed.

1) The resize function may have started as "a way of resizing images" but can be applied to both the base, the object, or the base and the objects AFAIK. So presumably the functionality of crop could be extended in that way too.

2) Thanks to your suggestions, I will look into masks. I have not used them at all. I hear that they are the business.

I did not mean to knock the commercial site, but merely to point out that it is commercial, and, as such, to avoid advertising it here on the PI forum.

The collage looks very professional.

Cheers,

Tim
heinz-oz

Post by heinz-oz »

Thanks Tim,

if you need any other help or hint, just ask :wink:
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