Rendering Freezes!!

Inga · Post by **Inga** » Sun Oct 02, 2005 2:20 am

Here we go again.

I have given up entirely on the project I was doing as the mpegs were edited and currupt (see posting on video audio out of synch).

I have started completely afresh, no transitions, just a series of lightly trimmed mpegs in a row. It rendered as I tested my progressive insertions of clips by slowly adding files to see what might be corrupt.

Now it freezes and locks up ulead during the rendering stage.

HELP!?!?!?

sjj1805 · Post by **sjj1805** » Sun Oct 02, 2005 9:59 am

Here we go again.

I have given up entirely on the project I was doing as the mpegs were edited and currupt (see posting on video audio out of synch).

Inga,
Please bear in mind that at the time of writing this there were 3295 posts in the Video Studio forum. Please either continue with your original post if you think the matter is related, otherwise paste a link to it
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To answer this problem we need to again look at your system specifications.

Computer: P4 2.5
RAM 768
Four partition hard drives at 50 gig each

By this do you mean you only have one 200GB hard drive split up into 50 GB patitions or have you more than 1 hard drive. What operating system are you using? windows XP or something other.

I think the chances are almost certain that both problems are going to be related.

Either:-
1. Your computer hardware rather than the software and we need to look at your system configuration.
or
2. It may be the way you are using the software.

Could we start off with answers to the above about your hardware please.

Inga · Post by **Inga** » Sun Oct 02, 2005 4:33 pm

Hi There,

sorry about that. I am new to needing this much support so I wasn't sure of the process. I will keep my posts going on the one topic. Thanks for the direction on that.

I have 1 200 Gig hard drive in four 50 gig partitions. I also have 1 60 gig hard drive. I have been keeping this project on a folder on my desktop. Our C drive is one of the four partitions of the 200 gig drive. I haven't used the other drives because they mainly serve for storing other captured movies that I used to make DVDs with through Adobe.

I am using Windows XP Home SP2.

Briefly:

I had captured all my clips using ADS Tech CapWiz as mpeg files. Then I did a whole lot of editing, stretching, transitions etc. Other advisores have said that may have corrupted the files. I have started afresh and put my mpegs into a new project, and as I put more in, I have been rendering through share - create video file. The first two renderings worked, and when I tested the new mpeg project, the sound and video was back in synch. Heartened by this I added some music and sound clip .wav files. THen the rendering started to freeze. This process used to work with everything in it and now no longer does.

I have had excellent direction throughout this and have followed directions to the letter. I am not sure what to do now. I am using VS9 trial - perhaps I should uninstall and get it again to start everything afresh.

I am running low on time and am quite concerned that this project is going to fail.

sjj1805 · Post by **sjj1805** » Sun Oct 02, 2005 6:01 pm

Firstly your hard drive configuration.
(Before anyone pounces on the fact there are in fact a sandwich of disks, remember I am simplifying this description to make it easy to follow.)

Think of a hard drive as you would an old fashioned record on a turntable.
To read your computer programs and associated data the arm must move back and forth over the disks surface to grab whatever is on the surface.

It is better to have two such arms working for you rather than 1. For this reason is is better to have your program (Video Studio) on one physical disk and the video you are working with on another physical disk.
Remember that when you 'partition' a disk it is still only ONE disk, there is still only ONE arm moving back and forth over the disk surface.

As you are working with video files which are quite large, and you have 2 large physical hard drives it would be better to have your Windows Operating System plus your copy of Video Studio on the smaller of the two hard drives. Ie your 60 GB Drive, which should be the one you boot your computer from and thus it gets drive letter "C". I do not recommend that you partition this particular hard drive as it will also contain any other programs you install such as Microsoft Office, Adobe Photoshop etc.

You should then keep your videos and any other 'data' (Spreadsheets, word documents etc) on the other physical hard drive

Your larger 200GB drive can then either be left as 1 x 200 GB hard drive or if you prefer you could partition it as you have done so into a number of smaller drives. You could then use each different partition for different purposes such as one for your video capture, another for music and a third for documents and spreadsheets. However don't go overbaord and create too many.

If you havent yet used your 60GB Hard Drive you could re-arrange everything within a relatively short time if you use a partition manager such as partition Magic
http://www.symantec.com/partitionmagic/

Next - Video Capture.
Please read BOTH of my posts at the following location
http://phpbb.ulead.com.tw/EN/viewtopic. ... highlight=

Inga · Post by **Inga** » Sun Oct 02, 2005 6:30 pm

What I get from your other posts is that you say I should have captured all my original footage in AVI format? I don't think that is an option with ADS Tech Capwiz. I don't remember getting to choose the format.

I am now stuck with 32 clips, all mpeg and requiring only minor editing. I need to know if there is some way to proceed.

1. Will the changes to the partitioning effect this project positively or negatively or should I do it for the future?

2. Should I unsintall and reinstall VS9 to see if I can get it to render again?

3. I need 32 clips to run as a movie with some text and music tracks. I then need that to burn to a DVD. Am I going to be able to achieve this or should I scrap it all and start capturing off VHS again?

4. If I capture off VHS, and ADStech DVD express Cap Wiz doesn't allow me to select AVI, what do I do?

sjj1805, thank you for your very clear way of explaining things. I hope you will be so kind as to let me know if I am at a point where I can't do this project or if it can be salavaged

Inga

sjj1805 · Post by **sjj1805** » Mon Oct 03, 2005 1:44 am

I am now stuck with 32 clips, all mpeg and requiring only minor editing. I need to know if there is some way to proceed.

Clearly you are having problems with VS9 as you captured in MPEG.
Rather than dump the above 32 clips try out the trial version of Womble
http://www.womble.com/download/

1. Will the changes to the partitioning effect this project positively or negatively or should I do it for the future?

I would tackle any re-partitioning tasks AFTER you have completed your current project and before you start a new one.

2. Should I unsintall and reinstall VS9 to see if I can get it to render again?

I dont think that this is the cause of your problem, it appears to be a mixture of setting up your hard drives wrong plus attempting to edit MPEG files rather than AVI files.

3. I need 32 clips to run as a movie with some text and music tracks. I then need that to burn to a DVD. Am I going to be able to achieve this or should I scrap it all and start capturing off VHS again?

4. If I capture off VHS, and ADStech DVD express Cap Wiz doesn't allow me to select AVI, what do I do?

If you can only capture to MPEG format you may have to consider using Womble. It may be possible though I haven't tried it to render your MPEGs to AVI, then edit and render back again. Has any other board member tried this and if so I would welcome your thoughts and comments.

Inga · Post by **Inga** » Mon Oct 03, 2005 2:40 am

I am now running all the clips into Womble and am going to try to produce it from there.

I did figure something else out though that will need to be resolved, but I want to check with the forum members if my conclusion is correct.

I bought an ADS DVD express capture device which came with VS7. I have now figured out that using the CAP wiz own software capture method (without going through "capture" on VS7) does not allow me to select AVI and only captures to mpeg. (WHich is how I ended up wtih many mpegs). According to the ADS website, I should be able to open Movie Maker in Ulead and access CAP wiz, tell it to capture AVI and off to the races I go. However, CAP WIZ is only compatible with up to VS7 and now that I am running VS9 - it doesn't talk to my CAP wiz device at all anymore.

Does anybody know how to set VS 9 to acknowledge the existence of my capture device?

PeterMilliken · Post by **PeterMilliken** » Tue Oct 04, 2005 5:06 am

Unless you really know what you are doing then I would be careful with the repartitioning etc. Your original post stated that your C: drive was one of the 50G partitions - this means that to get the C: drive onto your 60G drive, you will need to swap the master/slave pins on the backs of the drives!

Before doing this, you have to decide how you want to reposition your software i.e. operating system and all other installed software. You can't just "copy" it between partitions. If you are sure you have all your data files backed up, you could perform the physical swap of the drives and then reformat your C: drive and reload all your software from scratch. The other possibility is to take a "snapshot" of your current C: drive (Image for Windows will do the job - http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/imagew.html), turn off your computer, swap the master/slave pins on the back of the harddrives and then restart the computer. Restore your C: drive image from the DVD disc(s) made using Image for Windows and you can then look at repartitioning your 200G drive so it is only one partition (Windows may or may not complain after restoring the drive image about there being two copies of the OS on the computer - one on the 60G drive and the original on the 200G drive - so just reformat that partition).

So as you can see, you need to have some understanding of what you are doing before reconfiguring your computer! Anyone with a moderate technical understanding should be able to do it.

Goodluck,
Peter

Inga · Post by **Inga** » Tue Oct 04, 2005 5:22 am

Two things gentlemen,

One, don't worry about me doing the major renovation on our computer. I live with a reasonably competant dude who is quite good at this stuff. I have to "stray" and lean on you guys because video and movie stuff isn't his bag.

Second thing, and I am sorry to publish this here, but I downloaded another trial package as suggested and she works like a dream. Four hours of reloading editing and adding titles and music and I am the proud owner of one perfect DVD Halloween party invitation. Not one glitch, snag, dropped frame or out of synch audio video.

Thanks to all you most amazing folks who are so supportive of newbies like me. You are really something. Thank you from British Columbia Canada

Inga

dgorini · Post by **dgorini** » Tue Oct 18, 2005 5:41 pm

Had problems once with freezing during the rendering phase.

My CPU was getting very hot. Just open the computer case, (vacuum) clean the CPU heatsync and if you live somewhere hot just leave your computer case open to help air circulating through.