Does version 8 realy support 64-bit CPU's architecture?...
Multi-threaded rendering allows users to see improved
performance from 64-bit and Hyper-Threading CPUs
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64-bit support
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panDen
64-bit support
I found in "UMSP8 Features & Benefits" (http://www.ulead.com/msp/msp8_features.pdf) that
The recommended "real-time" recommendations are:
Intel® Pentium® 4 3.0 GHz or higher with Hyper-Threading technology
AFAIK, there is no code written for 64 bit processing (there isn't a real 64 bit Windows either, and that which exists as beta doesn't have drivers for most of the peripherals we use, either
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It may be (I don't really know) possible to use 64 bit processors to multithread: that's the best I can offer. I even suggest that the Ulead publicity guys may think that the 2 x 32 in a dual core = 64
After all, you don't have to be technically savvy to write spec sheets
Intel® Pentium® 4 3.0 GHz or higher with Hyper-Threading technology
AFAIK, there is no code written for 64 bit processing (there isn't a real 64 bit Windows either, and that which exists as beta doesn't have drivers for most of the peripherals we use, either
)It may be (I don't really know) possible to use 64 bit processors to multithread: that's the best I can offer. I even suggest that the Ulead publicity guys may think that the 2 x 32 in a dual core = 64
After all, you don't have to be technically savvy to write spec sheets [b][i][color=red]Devil[/color][/i][/b]
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Antonio G
I recall Ulead stating that 64 bits computing is the future for video editing, and by the time AMD64 processors were referred.
Now we have Intel with 64 bits processors extensions and besides Windows 64 is still in Beta status, the problem of the software being ready or not its a different story.
Take Linux - some distributions (like Suse Professional 9.3) include both version in the installation DVDs - 32 and 64 bits.
We know that the applications need to be ported to the different O/S, and the question seems to make sense: is MSP8 ready? or will we have a "new" 64 bits version in a short while, paying just because it case take profit of a new O/S capabilities?
This is quite different from using multiprocessors or hyperthreading, and 64 it is not 32+32 in this particular case.
Now we have Intel with 64 bits processors extensions and besides Windows 64 is still in Beta status, the problem of the software being ready or not its a different story.
Take Linux - some distributions (like Suse Professional 9.3) include both version in the installation DVDs - 32 and 64 bits.
We know that the applications need to be ported to the different O/S, and the question seems to make sense: is MSP8 ready? or will we have a "new" 64 bits version in a short while, paying just because it case take profit of a new O/S capabilities?
This is quite different from using multiprocessors or hyperthreading, and 64 it is not 32+32 in this particular case.
This seems a very cynical outlook. Certainly, I do not believe there could possibly be a 64 bits MSP version before MS have sorted out all the problems with the OS and you have drivers for all the peripherals. Then you do not seem to have any idea what would be involved in porting a complex software to a different OS. It would require several man-years of work, even without changing a jot in the functionality and it would require a full beta cycle before release, typically four to six months of hard labour. And then you do not expect to pay for such an upgrade? PL-E-E-E-ZE!Antonio G wrote:is MSP8 ready? or will we have a "new" 64 bits version in a short while, paying just because it case take profit of a new O/S capabilities?
If porting were as easy as you pretend, we would already have versions for Linux, Solaris and Mac. It took Microsoft five years from releasing Win 95 to producing an all 32-bits Win OS, in other words to port all their bits and pieces from 16 to 32 bits - and I wouldn't mind betting that when Vista 64 is released, it will still be largely 32 bits!
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Antonio G
Devil wrote: "This seems a very cynical outlook"
Sorry it wasn't the intention, and obviously I do not expect a free lunch there but with all the 64 bits and double core processors around and with the Ulead's statements about 64 bits advantages just looking for the probabilities of a 64 bits package in the near future.
You see, 64 bit O/S have been on test for some time now and can be out not that longer and if Ulead's roadmap can be following it or not in order to be ready to produce a new version or just intending to port a part - for instance the encoding, where 64 bits can be an imprtant advantage.
All these aspects are important for purchasing decision, customer wise.
And you're right about my lack of knowledge about the full extent of difficulties in the technical side to port a version, I understand it is not an easy and "click & donne" process, but as a final user I look for information that can have two effects:
Sorry it wasn't the intention, and obviously I do not expect a free lunch there but with all the 64 bits and double core processors around and with the Ulead's statements about 64 bits advantages just looking for the probabilities of a 64 bits package in the near future.
You see, 64 bit O/S have been on test for some time now and can be out not that longer and if Ulead's roadmap can be following it or not in order to be ready to produce a new version or just intending to port a part - for instance the encoding, where 64 bits can be an imprtant advantage.
All these aspects are important for purchasing decision, customer wise.
And you're right about my lack of knowledge about the full extent of difficulties in the technical side to port a version, I understand it is not an easy and "click & donne" process, but as a final user I look for information that can have two effects:
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Antonio G
Devil wrote: "This seems a very cynical outlook" - II
The last part of my reply seems to be missing, sorry if I repeat:
All these aspects are important for purchasing decision, customer wise.
And you're right about my lack of knowledge about the full extent of difficulties in the technical side to port a version, I understand it is not an easy and "click & donne" process, but as a final user I look for information that can have two effects:
- time horizon I can expect the availability
- upgrading a system counting on improving performance.
And, once again, sorry if I didn't express myself in the more convenient way+
The last part of my reply seems to be missing, sorry if I repeat:
All these aspects are important for purchasing decision, customer wise.
And you're right about my lack of knowledge about the full extent of difficulties in the technical side to port a version, I understand it is not an easy and "click & donne" process, but as a final user I look for information that can have two effects:
- time horizon I can expect the availability
- upgrading a system counting on improving performance.
And, once again, sorry if I didn't express myself in the more convenient way+