How to *persistently* lock my last-used crop size?

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jimojimo

How to *persistently* lock my last-used crop size?

Post by jimojimo »

When I crop images, every image I select--even when the crop tool remains selected--the default crop size goes back to 4x6 or whatever, and the 'lock' icon goes back to unlocked.

I can understand it reverting back when first opened, but when I simply select the next image that's already open, the crop settings revert back, and then to crop each image it's several extra mouse-clicks, which gets to be a pain.
Thanks for any help,
--Jim
2log

re: How to *persistently* lock my last-used crop size?

Post by 2log »

I don't know what you're doing but cropping should be simple. If you want the crop size to be fixed, do this:
1. From the tool panel, select Standard Selection Tool.
2. From the "Attributes Toolbar", enable Fixed size (in Pixels) then set the pixel size you want.
3. Also from the "Attributes Toolbar", click on Options and enable Draw from Center.
4. Click on the base image you want to retain then when a selection is made, click on Crop from the "Attributes Toolbar".
jimojimo

Post by jimojimo »

2log,
Thank you for the reply. I do know how to crop. What I want is for PI to *save* my crop settings so that every image that I crop I don't have to do 3 mouse clicks to select the crop tool, select the size, then select the Lock icon.

I typically use a single crop setting so is there a way to have pi save the settings?
Thanks,
--Jim
heinz-oz

Post by heinz-oz »

I don't know if 2log understood the question right, I face the same problem and have so far not come up with a solution.

My 8 MP Canon EOS takes images in an aspect ratio closer to 16:9 than to 4:3. If I print these to standard photo paper, the image gets cropped automatically to suit the paper format. However, when I display these images on a TV screen, as I frequently do, the display of landscape format images has a black bar at the top and bottom of the screen which is acceptable, but portrait formatted images lose more than half the screen size to the black bars. Hence, for displaying my images on a TV screen, I crop my images to a 4:3 aspect ratio, not a certain pixel size.

This process does involve a number of mouse clicks for each image since the darn program insists on reverting back to it's default setting and unlocks the 'maintain aspect ratio' setting as soon as the active image is cropped.

It would be a nice feature to have if the selection could be locked for the current session at least.
2log

Post by 2log »

It would be a nice feature to have if the selection could be locked for the current session at least.
- it should be. Mine works this way. You might want to try reinstalling your copy of PhotoImpact and installing the patch if yours work otherwise.
2log

re: How to *persistently* lock my last-used crop size?

Post by 2log »

There is a way to save your crop settings... click on the "Add" button at the attributes toolbar. It will then be added into EasyPallete so next time you open PhotoImpact, just click on your custom setting under "My Gallery" and the crop setting should already be there.

But then I don't have to do this because if cropping is the only function I have to do for the particular session, the settings are retained and I don't have to do as you describe for every picture. Now if you want this to happen is for PhotoImpact to retain the setting even after you closed the software, then that is not possible. That's what saving a setting on EasyPallete is for...
heinz-oz

Post by heinz-oz »

:? That's weird, could you please supply us with a description of the steps to take to lock the aspect ratio of a cropping tool?

I don't want to reinstall PI on my PC because it works just fine apart from the described problem, which I thought was just a shortcoming of PI 10. Whether or not my PI installation on my PC is patched is a mystery as well, thanks to another quirk of PI. I have PI 10 also installed on my laptop and just patched that one. The version still reads 10.0.0.1 ESD, the same as before the patch and the same as on my PC.

The behavior of the crop tool is identical on both machines.

I have just received my new laptop and shall install PI on that one and try again. I daubt though, that there will be a difference since I never had the crop tool work in any other way to what it does now, even though I have rebuilt and re-installed all software on my PC several times in recent months.

I'll keep you posted.
jimojimo

Post by jimojimo »

2log,
Thanks very much--that is a help. It's only one extra click to hit EasyPalette, then select my saved crop, but it's still one less click than the way I'd been doing it so it's definitely an improvment,

Thanks,
--Jim
jimojimo

Post by jimojimo »

...I spoke too soon. I had tried out that EasyPalette thing, but it was with the same image open. I was so happy that it had worked I replied before further testing. I went to a new image, and the crop went back to 4 x 6, with aspect ration unlocked. I dbl-clicked on the new easypalette command, and it stayed unlocked at 4 x 6.

It looked so promising, but it's back to the drawing board for me....
--Jim
heinz-oz

Post by heinz-oz »

2log wrote:
It would be a nice feature to have if the selection could be locked for the current session at least.
- it should be. Mine works this way. You might want to try reinstalling your copy of PhotoImpact and installing the patch if yours work otherwise.
Well, I just installed PI 10 on my new laptop, full ESD version, patched it to version 10.0.0.1. The behaviour is the same as on my old laptop and my PC.

As soon as another image is opened or selected, the aspect ratio lock opens and the program reverts back to its default 6 x 4" Photo setting.

Are you sure your program retains the aspect ratio lock and setting other than 4 x 6" Photo?
jimojimo

Post by jimojimo »

I just checked my other PC, with version XL, and 2Log's solution of putting the crop as a saved EasyPalette thing does work on XL, but definitly does not work on v10.
--Jim
2log

re: How to *persistently* lock my last-used crop size?

Post by 2log »

I have both version XL and version 10. It works perfectly fine on both versions...
heinz-oz

Post by heinz-oz »

:? Great, mine doesn't :(
2log

re: crop problem

Post by 2log »

I actually used PI 10 to simulate this. Can you give details of the problem you are having?
heinz-oz

Post by heinz-oz »

@ 2log

For example:

I edit several images taken with my Canon EOS 350D because I want to include these in a slide show for my TV with aspect ratio 4:3. With the first image active, I select the crop tool, click on the lock for the aspect ratio and select 'Computer/TV 4:3'. Then I proceed to select the part of the image I want to use, maintaining aspect ratio, and click on 'crop'. I save my edited image and close it. As soon as the focus changes to the next image, the crop tool is still active, but the lock for the aspect ratio opens and the settings revert back to the default 6 x 4 photo aspect ratio.

Please bear in mind that every time I will use a different image size in pixel x pixel but want to maintain the aspect ratio.

Hope that clarifies the problem for you.
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