Moving a floating selection graphical fuzziness makes it unusuable

[ar9005]

I recently updated to version 2 in the hope that it would fix the problem with selecting layers which it seems to have done.

But there has been some change to moving a floating selection which is made it near impossible to use.

As soon as I attempt to move the selection the contents of the selection become fuzzy. On top of that the background transparency rectangles move. The combination of these two things make it near impossible to line things up. As the reason I am moving a floating selection is to line things up this renders this function near useless. Is there any sort of setting I can get use to get back to how things used to be?

I have attached a screenshot of the problem. The top half shows the image without the floating selection. The bottom half shows the area selected (the D) has been made fuzzy for no good reason. You can also see the grey and white squares have moved.

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[Jean-Luc]

I don't see the selection fuzziness on my PSP 2023 25.2.0.58
Could you post a screen shot of the selection Options bar ?
Do you work in Complete workspace? Tabbed or not tabbed?

[ar9005]

I think I work in Complete. I use a custom workspace but I tried with the default Complete workspace (which has the same colour scheme so I guess that is complete?)

Tabbed or not tabbed? Not sure what you mean there. Do you mean the application window is maximized or floating? I tried both and no change.

I've been doing some more testing on this and it's far worse than the fuzziness problem. At zoom more than 400% the image goes grey and it's impossible to see anything when moving the floating selection.

At even higher zoom rates it causes the whole program to lock.

Opening the task manager I noticed the following at 2000% zoom when trying to move a floating selection:
Before moving the memory usage is 273MB
Attempting to move and nothing happens on screen but memory usage spikes to 30,000MB over a few seconds.
Over the next 30 secs the memory usage slowly drops until around 10,000MB when CPU spikes to over 70% and memory continues to fall. At around the minute mark the CPU usage has dropped and memory usage is down to as low as 3MB. It then goes back up to 270MB and control of the program returns.

I thought this might an undo memory cache problem but turning the undo system off makes no change.

Trying another test gradually increasing the zoom rate and noticing the RAM usage. As I go above 400% there is a brief spike in RAM and the higher the zoom level the more RAM that is used. At 500% it's 400MB, 700% it 7,000MB, 900% it's 17,000MB. Just a reminder that at these zoom levels the image is no longer visible and has gone grey.

That probably explains the lock up at 2000%. More RAM is used by this bug than in my system.

Unfortunately it seems PSP is fundamentally broken in these aspect of it's operation and as it is a vital part of what I do I'm off to Affinity Photo.

Windows 11
PSP 25.2.0.58
Intel 13900
Nvidia 3060Ti
32GB RAM

Here is a screenshot of the selection options for what it's worth.

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[Jean-Luc]

I'm working in Untabbed mode and Complete workspace:
Workspace selection: File > Workspace > Complete
Untabbed: Window (in the top Menu bar) > Uncheck Tabbed Documents
Your screen capture shows that you are in Complete mode (small icon after the word ULTIMATE).

For your memory problem see LeviFiction solution:
https://forum.corel.com/viewtopic.php?p ... ry#p397281

Is the fuzziness visible when you uncheck Anti-alias in the Options toolbar?

[LeviFiction]

I don't think this is a problem with saved history or scratch disks. Their description suggests that there is a Memory leak as they're zooming in. Something I haven't experienced and cannot duplicate. The size of the header, though, makes me think there is some scaling going on in Windows.

ar9005 if you're still here, could you tell me are you using scaling on a high pixel density monitor? (4k)

Also, although it's only supposed to affect brushes and things, in your File -> Preferences -> General Program Preferences. Under "Performance" do you have hardware acceleration turned on or off?

[ar9005]

Indeed I am using a 4k monitor with 125% scaling.

I've tried setting the scaling to 100%, unchecking tabbed documents, unchecking anti-alias in the options toolbar and switching hardware acceleration on and off.

None of these changes have stopped the fuzziness nor the excessive memory usage.

I even tried a simple 512x512 document as it may have been the files sizes I was working with were too much. The same problems still continue even with a 512x512 image with only one layer.

[Grazie]

Maybe your Nvidia 3060Ti driver has gone stale, and needs updating?

[rslokke]

I am also having this problem as of the recent update. I am not using a 4k monitor, but I have 150% scaling and resolution at 2560 x 1080. My card is a 4070 ti.