Premiere User Seeking Opinion on MSP8 for HDV Editing

[pcascio]

I was about to reluctantly spring for Aspect HD, which I resent having to buy just to edit HDV properly.

Can someone here try to convince me why I should switch to MSP8? I am hearing good things about it but can't fiind much from people who work in HDV. I have a FX1 and am building a killer AMD Dual 3800+ system just for editing.

Thanks

[Terry Stetler]

The posts I've read so far by beta preview users that are using HDV indicate it works quite well.

Attractive features include capture/edit HD out of the box complete with an embedded Smart Proxy that can be set up to use the compressor of your choice. I've found that this works very nicely with the PICVideo and Morgan MJPeg's (both very inexpensive) because of their speed, but other fast softcodecs should work as well.

It also has a Smart Package feature that lets you bundle the whole project, including its proxy files, into a single folder so you can sent the whole shebang to others for collaborative editing?

Any others want to reply on this one?

[tyamada]

I just got my HC1 and am using MSP 8 Preview, so far capturing, editing and writing back to tape worked without a problem, that is after I read the tutorial on work flow on HD content.

I probably buy MSP8 when it is realesed.

I've read that the AMD Processors are slower doing video as opposed to the Intel Chip. The AMD Processors are faster doing everything esle except video. You might want to check on Tom's Hardware web site and look at the reviews of the AMD and Intel motherboards.

[pcascio]

The posts I've read so far by beta preview users that are using HDV indicate it works quite well.

Attractive features include capture/edit HD out of the box complete with an embedded Smart Proxy that can be set up to use the compressor of your choice. I've found that this works very nicely with the PICVideo and Morgan MJPeg's (both very inexpensive) because of their speed, but other fast softcodecs should work as well.

Thanks for your response Terry. What do you mean by 'the compressor of my choice'?

Thanks. Also, I notice you have an RTX100, does that function in MSP?

[tv_news_guy]

I have used both Premier and MSP for years. Until HD that is. I decided once and for all to just choose one. When I tried MSP* beta it made the decision very easy. HD capture, edit and resend as program stream work flawlessly right outta the box. The new and improved gui is imho a charm to work with. They finally got most of the titler tool right..IE you can still use your outboard fx and titling packages for those whiz bang titles/keys/lower thirds..but the built in title maker makes doing quick stuff a breeze. I really really like the proxy use for editing HD. You can choose the highest bit rate format your system can handle..and edit without annoyingly long render times. I am going to get 8..can't wait to see what is in service update one that they just didnt have done in time to include in the initial offering.[/b]

[Terry Stetler]

I've read that the AMD Processors are slower doing video as opposed to the Intel Chip. The AMD Processors are faster doing everything esle except video. You might want to check on Tom's Hardware web site and look at the reviews of the AMD and Intel motherboards.

I'm using an AMD64 3000+ in my MSP8 test rig and it screams, so you may want to revise those comments

[Terry Stetler]

Thanks for your response Terry. What do you mean by 'the compressor of my choice'?

Thanks. Also, I notice you have an RTX100, does that function in MSP?

It means that out of the box MSP8 has several profiles it can use to creat proxy files: MPEG (VCD, DVD 4:3 and DVD 16:9) and DV (4:3 and 16:9) both in NTSC or PAL, but you can create your own proxy templates using other MPEG profiles or AVI codecs installed in your system.

I prefer PICVideo or Morgan MJPeg because they are so fast at encoding, faster than either MPEG or DV, but you could just as easily use DivX or anything else.

As far as the RT.X100 goes its utility in MSP8 is unfortunately limited.

You can use its IEEE-1394 port as normal. You can also use the MSP8 VfW capture plugin to capture analog (S-Video or composite) using the RT.X100 hardware in Video Capture.

You can also use the RT.X100's 300+ organic wipe effects, which are alpha channeled TGA's, in the MSPro 8 MASK transition or with transiton plugins like SpiceMaster. LOTS of room for play here.

Unfortunately Matrox chose to only develop RT.X100 drivers for Premiere 6.x and Premiere Pro, so its massive collection of DVE's is not available.

IMO as a former RT.X100 betatester Matrox's loss.

[tyamada]

Terry Stetler:

Here is a link to the results of different processors from Tom's Hardware,
results show that AMD Chips are slower than Intel Chips processing video.
The AMD Chips are faster on everything else.

http://www23.tomshardware.com/index.htm ... 8&chart=29

[Terry Stetler]

First of all using Toms Hardware as a resource has all the credibility of using statements by a used car salesman. His comparison is also a year old. These are newer;

Dual core comparison:

http://www.cnet.com/4520-6022_1-6217968-1.html

Single core content creation:

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/di ... x57_6.html

[tyamada]

Terry Stetler:

As I said before AMD processors are about twice as fast as Intel processors except for video.

Your link:
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/di ... 57_10.html