Is there anything like "snap to" for cutting clips

[hanness]

Maybe I'm doing this wrong since I'm a bit used to Adobe Premiere, but in both Media Studio Pro 7 and 8 Preview I'm having a little difficulty cutting clips in the timeline.

In Premiere when you select the razor tool and then move it near the current time indicator it snaps to the position of the time indicator so that you get a cut at precisely the point where the time indicator is.

In MSP I find that this does not happen. As a result I have to zoom in on the timeline to the point where individual frames are visible so that I can cut with frame accuracy. I then need to zoom back out again, then in again when I want to perform another cut. This gets tedious in a hurry.

I'm sure I'm missing a better way - can anyone tell me what I may be missing?

Hannes

[MonroePoteet]

I don't know of a way to "snap to scrub position", but I'd like to see it. Better yet, a "cut at scrub position" in the menu, similar to what's in the Source Window.

I do what you're talking about in two ways:

1) I use the "Previous Zoom" quite a bit. This is tied to F9 by default. So, I scrub at a fairly large view, then zoom in to 1-frame or some other closeup view to do precision cutting. After doing this once, use F9 to switch back and forth.

2) I use the "Source Window" a lot for cutting up clips. It has a "Cut at Current Position" (a feature I wish the Preview Window had). I'd do this all the time if: a) the scrub slider in the Source Window was ONLY for the currently selected clip, or b) the jog-shuttle speed was more than 2X.

Using the Source Window, I can double-click a clip into it, play and shuttle, and fine-tune the position using the left/right arrow keys, then use "Cut at Current Position" to make the cut.

I'm hoping the scrub slider in the Source Window for MSP8 is fixed. In MSP7, it's *very* bizarre, with the thumb portion of the slider able to leave the slider altogether. The slider represents the whole timeline, but *should* only represent the current clip range in it, IMO.

mTp

[Terry Stetler]

What's wrong with using Multi Trim?

[MonroePoteet]

What's wrong with using Multi Trim?

I can't find "Multi Trim" or "Multitrim" or "Multiple Trim" anywhere in the MSP V7 help files or in any of the MSP V7 menu items, under the MSP V7 Trim Window, anywhere at all. Is it called something else in MSP V7?

mTp

[Terry Stetler]

Sorry, I got stuck on the fact that you'd tried the MSP8 preview. Multi-Trim is new to MSPro 8;

[MonroePoteet]

Thanks. The original poster, hanness, has tried the V8 beta, but I haven't. Too much work to risk my production system right now. Sorry for my confusion.

mTp

[Terry Stetler]

N/P. I'd never risk current production with a public beta either. All my beta'ing was done in a multiboot XP partition

[Gorf]

In Premiere when you select the razor tool and then move it near the current time indicator it snaps to the position of the time indicator so that you get a cut at precisely the point where the time indicator is.

I've used MSP 6 and all SP versions of 7, and they all "snap to" the preview marker, preview range edges, clip edges and cue points. Haven't tried v8 yet - so I don't know what the menu options are, or if this feature is even continued, but it's pretty fundamental and so unlikely to have been removed.

It sounds like you've turned the feature off. "Edit" "Snap"

[MonroePoteet]

The Scissors tool doesn't do this "snap to position" for me in MSP V7, and I have Edit=>Snap checked.

Here's my scenario:

I have a single clip with one title fading out and another fading in. There is one, single frame where neither title is showing, and I want to cut there.

If I use the left/right arrows in the Preview Window to place the scrub exactly where I want the cut, then position the Scissors tool as precisely as I can on the Scrub position (using shortcut "s") and cut, I get the last frame of the fading-out title in my new clip.

If I set the scrub position as before, but then zoom in to 1-Frame before using the scissors tool to cut, I get what I want: the first frame of the new clip has no title on it, and the new title fades in immediately.

mTp

[Gorf]

I never bother with all that larking about. Just snip the clip anywhere (by holding the S key down as you click in the middle of the clip) and drag the clip edge to where you need it so that it snaps.

You need to have stitch trim selected for it to work best.

[MonroePoteet]

After some experimenting I got this to work. Thanks for the clues. Unfortunately, the first project I tried this on, the "s" scissors tool moves the scrub point, so it was even *more* "larking about" to get it to work. I think it had to do with my project settings or the source material, since it works fine on other projects.

So, the one-liner solution to the original post (knowing what I know now) would be:

"In Stitch Trim mode, you can drag the cut point, and it will snap to the scrub position."

I'd still like to see the scissors tool snap to the scrub position, or have a Preview Window menu item for "Cut at Current Position".

Thanks again for the clues.
mTp

[hanness]

Thanks for the responses - I knew there there had to be better ways and sure enough there are.

Hannes

[Bignosetw]

Hannes waar woon jy?

(just a shot in the dark)

Tobie

[Greg]

So why the name change Grootneus?
Regards,
Greg