Thanks David
So I anderstand that is better to invest my money in a processor with high single thread performance and more RAM then in more cores or a graphic card. Any other recommendations?
GPU Tweak
Moderator: Ken Berry
-
Davidk
- Posts: 2090
- Joined: Wed Nov 26, 2008 12:08 pm
- System_Drive: C
- 32bit or 64bit: 64 Bit
- motherboard: ASUS Prime B660M-K D4
- processor: Intel core i3-12100 3_3ghz quad core processor
- ram: 16Gb
- Video Card: on-motherboard Intel UHD 730 graphics chipset
- Hard_Drive_Capacity: 6Tb
- Monitor/Display Make & Model: HP E240c video conferencing monitor
- Corel programs: VideoStudio: 2022, 2023
- Location: Brisbane Australia
Re: GPU Tweak
A 64-bit cpu is essential. You would think that it's an all-you-can-get choice now, but altho MS stopped making 32bit OS software in 2015, apparently there are 32 bit versions of the windows OS and cpus still available. If you have one, upgrade to a 64bit version: on a like-for-like test, the memory access for 64bit is twice as fast as 32bit (takes 2 memory access cycles to get 8 bytes of data vs one memory cycle for a 64bit system).
Over the years, PC performance has mostly improved by increasing the cpu clock speed. And whereas not that long ago, clock speed was dictated by a crystal on the motherboard, now it is a feature of the cpu chip itself; change the cpu, change the clock speed. But that also means a compatible motherboard for a fast clock processor. More recently, hyper threading has become available, but that relies of both multiple cores and software to use it. So if you have a choice and can afford it, a fast cpu - around 4Ghz cpu clock - and multiple cores is good. More than 3 or 4 cores is probably a waste of money, even tho you can get cpu's with 7 or more the OS and apps just cannot use the capacity that supplies, and chips of that capacity are expensive. If economics ie cost is a real consideration, focus on a fast clock rather than extra cores; a fast clock affects everything, whereas more cores may help just the apps that can use them.
Get a good 2nd generation SSD to install as your C drive: SSD's don't have disk latency to worry about - essentially they are a v large RAM with a disk interface. Most new Pc's these days have one, but often it's very basic. The 2nd gen SSD interfaces are at least twice as fast as 1st gen with a SATA interface. I suggest one with 500gb of capacity would do well, esp with a good size RAM. As an example of the tradeoffs that can happen, about a year ago my 3.7Ghz, 3 core cpu with 8Gb RAM motherboard using a 256gb 1st gen SSD as C failed - it was nearly 8 years old and I'd been expecting it to die sometime soon. Economics applied so I replaced it all with a m/b supporting a 3.3ghz 3 core cpu, 16GB RAM, and a 500gb 2nd gen SSD. Overall, the system performance is probably better that the one it replaced, even tho the clock rate is slower: the faster storage interfaces more than make up for the nearly 10% slower cpu clock. My preference is for Intel processors in part due to that on-chip video cpu I mentioned previously, but for AmD fans, generally their Ryzen cpus are faster still, and you may well find one in the 4Ghz range at an affordable price.
If you can, have several distinct physical hard drives and use them separately for applications (eg, CVS) and data (eg, video/audio/photo clips). Where you can avoid installing applications and data on the C drive (use a custom install for applications and specify the non-C drive, eg D), as that makes management of the overall system easier. This is probably only feasible for a desktop PC: laptops tend to have only a single drive, either HDD or SSD. Anything extra on a usb-attached hard drive will slow the operation of any application getting data from that device due to limits of the interface and the access times of the device in question.
Over the years, PC performance has mostly improved by increasing the cpu clock speed. And whereas not that long ago, clock speed was dictated by a crystal on the motherboard, now it is a feature of the cpu chip itself; change the cpu, change the clock speed. But that also means a compatible motherboard for a fast clock processor. More recently, hyper threading has become available, but that relies of both multiple cores and software to use it. So if you have a choice and can afford it, a fast cpu - around 4Ghz cpu clock - and multiple cores is good. More than 3 or 4 cores is probably a waste of money, even tho you can get cpu's with 7 or more the OS and apps just cannot use the capacity that supplies, and chips of that capacity are expensive. If economics ie cost is a real consideration, focus on a fast clock rather than extra cores; a fast clock affects everything, whereas more cores may help just the apps that can use them.
Get a good 2nd generation SSD to install as your C drive: SSD's don't have disk latency to worry about - essentially they are a v large RAM with a disk interface. Most new Pc's these days have one, but often it's very basic. The 2nd gen SSD interfaces are at least twice as fast as 1st gen with a SATA interface. I suggest one with 500gb of capacity would do well, esp with a good size RAM. As an example of the tradeoffs that can happen, about a year ago my 3.7Ghz, 3 core cpu with 8Gb RAM motherboard using a 256gb 1st gen SSD as C failed - it was nearly 8 years old and I'd been expecting it to die sometime soon. Economics applied so I replaced it all with a m/b supporting a 3.3ghz 3 core cpu, 16GB RAM, and a 500gb 2nd gen SSD. Overall, the system performance is probably better that the one it replaced, even tho the clock rate is slower: the faster storage interfaces more than make up for the nearly 10% slower cpu clock. My preference is for Intel processors in part due to that on-chip video cpu I mentioned previously, but for AmD fans, generally their Ryzen cpus are faster still, and you may well find one in the 4Ghz range at an affordable price.
If you can, have several distinct physical hard drives and use them separately for applications (eg, CVS) and data (eg, video/audio/photo clips). Where you can avoid installing applications and data on the C drive (use a custom install for applications and specify the non-C drive, eg D), as that makes management of the overall system easier. This is probably only feasible for a desktop PC: laptops tend to have only a single drive, either HDD or SSD. Anything extra on a usb-attached hard drive will slow the operation of any application getting data from that device due to limits of the interface and the access times of the device in question.
-
morrisben
- Posts: 4
- Joined: Wed Aug 02, 2023 2:48 pm
- System_Drive: C
- 32bit or 64bit: 64 Bit
- Corel programs: vs 2020
Re: GPU Tweak
Thank you David for your detailed answer.
I am going to replace my 9 years old desktop with a new one.
Based on your advice I shall take the i5-13600K processor which can run on 5.1 GHz and install also 32GB RAM and 500GB SSD.
I shall also move my old 2TB disk to the new computer.
The single-core performance is expected to be impressive.
The chip has also internal Intel GBU, that may or may not help. I also keep the option to add an external GBU card in case it will be required.
The CPU has 14 cores. But I understand not to expect too much from this fact. But it can be usable in the future if I shall decide to move from Corel product to other video editors (because of crashes).
After working with the new system, I shall try to report my experience .
I am going to replace my 9 years old desktop with a new one.
Based on your advice I shall take the i5-13600K processor which can run on 5.1 GHz and install also 32GB RAM and 500GB SSD.
I shall also move my old 2TB disk to the new computer.
The single-core performance is expected to be impressive.
The chip has also internal Intel GBU, that may or may not help. I also keep the option to add an external GBU card in case it will be required.
The CPU has 14 cores. But I understand not to expect too much from this fact. But it can be usable in the future if I shall decide to move from Corel product to other video editors (because of crashes).
After working with the new system, I shall try to report my experience .