Wish List VideoStudio 2024

[TonyP]

The first 8K TV was unveiled in 2012 and the first camera capable of recording 8K was unveiled in 2013.
My dear, this technology has been introduced to the public for about 10 years.

Which means nothing in the consumer real world. It's 2023, how many 8K sets are sold?

According to estimates made in recent years, this year the number of consumers and sales of 8K products should be much higher than the current figure, but in reality, the quality of 8K is still not widely receptioned.
I suppose the reason for this lack of reception is due to the following:

1- Watching 8K videos and images requires very large screens.
For example, to see 8K resolution, we need televisions above 60 or 70 inches, and we cannot see a difference between 4K and 8K qualities at lower inches.
Or consider a 32-inch monitor, in a monitor of this size, we cannot see much difference between 4K and 8K qualities.
So we need very large screens to see 8K resolution.
Considering the area of today's houses, as well as the short distance between people and monitors, sometimes it is unreasonable to use very large screens.

Now you are starting to understand what I was saying and agree.

2- The widespread use of smart mobile phones and laptops.
Today, many people spend hours using such devices during the day.
Due to their small screens, these devices do not show much difference between Full HD and Ultra HD qualities.

Yep!

3- 8K products are expensive.
Of course, if 8K products had many more customers than now, the price of the products would be cheaper.

But I was referring to the "here and now", not years down the road of speculation. When are you personally going to support the 8K video revolution?

4- There are few movies and television productions with 8K quality.

And? What does that have to do with consumers now?

Now consider that 8K quality will not become widespread in 10 years, then what will be the task of users who use 8K products?
They will have to wait until VideoStudio 2033 adds 8K video export!!!
Your words are illogical, VideoStudio should move forward according to today's technology.
If a user needs 8K output and doesn't have access to it in VideoStudio, don't you think they might migrate to another company's software?
On the other hand, with the addition of 8K video export, users from other companies may be attracted to VideoStudio.

It's your words that are illogical. Right now, I can export in 8K in Resolve or Vegas Pro. No professional will migrate to Videostudio or any other consumer editor to edit. That is just wishful thinking on your part.
Again, where are all the 8K TV's? 8K video cameras? 8K DVD's? 8K content? Do you really think that if someone spends multiple thousands of dollars on cameras, tv's, and editing software to produce 8K videos, they are really going to look at Videostudio Pro?
So when is your plan to move up to 8K technology? READ and learn something.
READ some more and learn something more.

My dear, solving problems and bugs in the current version and improving performance is one of the duties of the software development team, but this is not their only duty.
Planning to increase the capabilities and facilities of the software in the next versions is also their other task.

Yes, I also agree that the current version has some problems that need to be fixed, but this is not a reason to be indifferent to the future of the software.

Fix the bugs first, like I wrote, and then move on to features. Do you think that Alludo has unlimited funds it's willing to dump into Videostudio? Really? And if the software is buggy, who is going to buy it? Certainly not professionals. And hobbyists will begin to consider other software.

I've come to believe from experience that Alludo employees read our posts.
For example, in the topic related to Video Studio 2022 Wishlist, some of the wishes that users posted for the next year's version were fulfilled in VideoStudio 2022.
By the way, you posted the first wish in this topic.
Wasn't waveforms added in VS 2022?
Or in the topic related to VideoStudio 2023 Wishlist, some of the wishes we posted were fulfilled in VideoStudio 2023.
So the development team does not ignore our requests.

You can believe what you want.
There are things that need to be fixed. Do you really think a "professional" would tolerate a lot of bugs? I don't, and I am not a "professional" any more.
Oh, and you do know that certain features VS has were developed first in Pinnacle Studio and ported over, yes?
You can cherry pick all you want, but how many Feature Requests were fulfilled?
Yeah... 8K, but not in the near future. Why waste the development money, when bugs need to be fixed.
Oh, and you did see the screenshots I posted. Does VS have anything to compare? And you are talking about 8K? Really?

Wow, software like Adobe Premiere Pro and DaVinci Resolve are industry specific and used by film and media companies as well as large advertising companies.
I meant professional for home users.
Did you really think I meant to compare VideoStudio to software like Adobe Premiere Pro?!
Pinnacle Studio software is professional in my opinion, but professional in whose opinion?
Pinnacle Studio is truly professional for the home user, and VideoStudio is considered relatively professional for the home user due to its additional features.
Pinnacle Studio and VideoStudio are suitable for home users and small businesses, although Pinnacle Studio may also be used in industry.

You really don't know much about editing software and it is showing by your statements. You can get Davinci Resolve for FREE. And where do you come up with the idea that it's specific for only industry?
Really? Sorry, you are wrong, very wrong here. I am a solo editor and have Davinci Resolve Studio 18 (yes, the paid version). And guess what, you can edit your home videos on it too!! AMAZING!!
And many content creators are using the FREE version to create content AND home movies! Yes! You can actually do that with a Free version of Davinci Resolve!! Freakin' amazing!!

You were the one to bring up professionals coming over to VS, not me. I did ask you to define "professional", didn't I?
As for Pinnacle Studio, I've used almost all their products in various forms since 2002, so I know their products quite well. The ONLY product they produced that I didn't buy was Pro One. And while their feature set is compelling, not for professional users.
And the software suffers just like VS with bugs that need to be fixed before any professional will consider using the software.
But you were referring to home users all the time? Then I ask, how many actually own and use 8K. I'm waiting....

Adobe After Effects is used to create special effects and is not considered video editing software.

VIDEO, and THIS.
But the ability to do compositing, titling and special effects are all part and parcel of professional editing. But then, you weren't really referring to professional editing, but consumer editing.
Again, VS is an amazing piece of editing software. Amazing. But stop using the words "professional". It isn't. Maybe enthusiast... Download Davinci Resolve FREE and get back to me about "professional".

[asik1]

My 2c
only a user can be "professional" not a product, any product.
A product can be named "Professional ultimate Super duper luxury all time universe Jambo studio editor" and the user will do a crappy content boring clip.

[TonyP]

@asik1, thanks for the laugh! Much needed this morning!

With my last reply to Amir23, I've said all that I can and will not longer beat a "dead horse". Adi is right, give someone the most powerful editing software on the most powerful computer, it is their talent that will produce the video. The software can help, but in the end, it's the user. I am sure that there are users who have produced videos that they have been paid for with VS, making them "professionals".

[Amir23]

Hello

I have been very busy for some time, that's why I didn't have time to send the answers to your questions sooner.

You asked me questions in the previous text, if the answers to your questions were in the same text.
Let's pass now.

Which means nothing in the consumer real world. It's 2023, how many 8K sets are sold?

I answered this question. I said that according to the predictions made in the past years, the number of 8K users should be much higher than now, but this did not happen and I gave you 4 speculative reasons.

But I was referring to the "here and now", not years down the road of speculation. When are you personally going to support the 8K video revolution?

It's like you don't pay attention to my words at all!
I also mentioned the present tense and said that 8K products are more expensive.
And I said that if 8K products were sold more in the past, the price of these products would be cheaper now.

And? What does that have to do with consumers now?

Incidentally, it has to do with consumers.
When they become aware that there are still few movies, series and TV and satellite channels with 8K quality and they have limited access to this quality in the media, so they give up buying 8K products. They can buy 4K products for less and get access to many more movies and TV channels (in 4K quality).
Pay attention, I said consumers, not users.

It's your words that are illogical. Right now, I can export in 8K in Resolve or Vegas Pro. No professional will migrate to Videostudio or any other consumer editor to edit. That is just wishful thinking on your part.
Again, where are all the 8K TV's? 8K video cameras? 8K DVD's? 8K content? Do you really think that if someone spends multiple thousands of dollars on cameras, tv's, and editing software to produce 8K videos, they are really going to look at Videostudio Pro?
So when is your plan to move up to 8K technology? READ and learn something.
READ some more and learn something more.

Wow, I meant VideoStudio users.
I have nothing to do with DaVinci Resolve and MAGIX Vegas Pro.
I told the development team to add 8K video export access for VideoStudio users.
And I said that if this feature is added, the attention of home users of other companies' software may be drawn to VideoStudio.

If someone who spends a lot of money to buy an 8K TV and camera is a home user, VideoStudio Ultimate will be suitable for them.

I said in the previous post, I will repeat again, I meant the professional home user.
In terms of just the home user, VideoStudio is fairly professional.

It doesn't matter when I move to 8K technology,
Because I don't need it at the moment and it is not possible for me to buy these products because of their high cost.
I repeat again, I only suggested exporting 8K video for the sake of other users.

I'm just an ordinary editor, I don't know much and I have no claim.
I will be happy to learn useful things from you (but not in this topic).

Fix the bugs first, like I wrote, and then move on to features. Do you think that Alludo has unlimited funds it's willing to dump into Videostudio? Really? And if the software is buggy, who is going to buy it? Certainly not professionals. And hobbyists will begin to consider other software.

Bug fixes and feature upgrades should be done at the same time.

No, Alludo doesn't have unlimited capital, but they should give VideoStudio a lot of importance because this software can generate a lot of income for them.

I haven't had time to use VS 2023 a lot yet, but in the versions of previous years, sometimes when editing, the program would suddenly close and this was annoying for me.
Yes, they must fix such problems, but at the same time, they should not neglect the future of the software.

You can believe what you want.
There are things that need to be fixed. Do you really think a "professional" would tolerate a lot of bugs? I don't, and I am not a "professional" any more.
Oh, and you do know that certain features VS has were developed first in Pinnacle Studio and ported over, yes?
You can cherry pick all you want, but how many Feature Requests were fulfilled?
Yeah... 8K, but not in the near future. Why waste the development money, when bugs need to be fixed.
Oh, and you did see the screenshots I posted. Does VS have anything to compare? And you are talking about 8K? Really?

No, I did not know.
Pinnacle Systems was a subsidiary of Corel.
VS and PS share some windows with each other.

Not all user requests are going to be met.
After all, the development team has its own policies, but they did not ignore the demands of the users.

It is up to the development team to decide if 8K export is required for VideoStudio 2024.
I just made my suggestion and you are not in a position to set policy for Alludo.

Videostudio is only for use by home users and provides them with relatively powerful features.

You really don't know much about editing software and it is showing by your statements. You can get Davinci Resolve for FREE. And where do you come up with the idea that it's specific for only industry?
Really? Sorry, you are wrong, very wrong here. I am a solo editor and have Davinci Resolve Studio 18 (yes, the paid version). And guess what, you can edit your home videos on it too!! AMAZING!!
And many content creators are using the FREE version to create content AND home movies! Yes! You can actually do that with a Free version of Davinci Resolve!! Freakin' amazing!!

You were the one to bring up professionals coming over to VS, not me. I did ask you to define "professional", didn't I?
As for Pinnacle Studio, I've used almost all their products in various forms since 2002, so I know their products quite well. The ONLY product they produced that I didn't buy was Pro One. And while their feature set is compelling, not for professional users.
And the software suffers just like VS with bugs that need to be fixed before any professional will consider using the software.
But you were referring to home users all the time? Then I ask, how many actually own and use 8K. I'm waiting....

I wasn't surprised at all because I know many home users around the world use Adobe Premiere Pro and DaVinci Resolve.
I used the free version of DaVinci Resolve a few years ago.
There is nothing wrong with using such software for a home user, but it has a long learning curve and it takes a lot of time to master such software.
On the other hand, we need more powerful systems to use these software.
Does a home user need all the professional features of these software?
What percentage of the features of these software are used?
But keep in mind that a home user can use almost all VideoStudio features in editing.

I just said that VideoStudio is relatively professional for home users and Pinnacle Studio is for professional home users.
From the point of view of a Hollywood editor, these two software are not professional.
It is very important from whose point of view we look at these two software.

Sly, maybe you used to work at Columbia Pictures that you have such a low level view of these two software?
Of course, my previous sentence was just a joke.

I don't know how many VideoStudio users use 8K products, I just know that VideoStudio is a popular software around the world.
I'm sure you don't have statistics on how many users are using 8K.

But the ability to do compositing, titling and special effects are all part and parcel of professional editing. But then, you weren't really referring to professional editing, but consumer editing.
Again, VS is an amazing piece of editing software. Amazing. But stop using the words "professional". It isn't. Maybe enthusiast... Download Davinci Resolve FREE and get back to me about "professional".

Video editing with after effects is difficult.
Visual effects are a separate topic and are not considered editing.

I will say again that VideoStudio Ultimate 2023 is relatively professional from the point of view of a home user because this user does not need advanced editing at the cinema level.

I hope you got the answers to your questions.
If other users, like you, oppose the wishes of others in this topic, then the development team will no longer value our wishes.

I repeat again,
A simple home user can use Adobe Premiere Pro and DaVinci Resolve.
If I said that these two software are industry-specific, I meant that the needs of a home user are not very important for them.
What do you think was the reason behind the release of Adobe Premiere Elements and Adobe Premiere Rush?
Adobe Inc. released Premiere Elements for beginners and people with no specialized video editing knowledge, and released Premiere Rush for video bloggers and social media content creators.
It released two software so that users stay away from the complexities of the company's main software, which is Premiere Pro.
So Adobe Inc. paid attention to the needs of home users.

Mr. TonyP, not all home users are super pros like you.
A large number of home users solve their video editing needs with a simple software such as VideoStudio.
There are a number of home users who, like you, go to software like Adobe Premiere Pro and DaVinci Resolve to access advanced techniques, now they know better how much these techniques help them.

Please stop discussing with me in this topic because by continuing this discussion, you and I will cause us to lose the rights of other users and prevent their wishes from being seen by the development team.

Please don't reply to my messages in this topic and don't comment on my wishes.
If you want to continue this discussion, send a private message or create a new topic so that other members of the site can follow our discussion.

Mr. Ken Berry and Mr. lata as forum admins have been patient so far and have been kind enough not to warn you and me about marginal discussions.

As you said, 8K video export has been added to MAGIX Vegas Pro, so we VideoStudio users would also like to see this feature added to version 2024.

You use MAGIX Vegas and DaVinci Resolve and enjoy, I use VideoStudio and I will enjoy it.

[Ken Berry]

I have to say that I agree that it IS time that this discussion ends right now. This thread is only to list what users would like to see. It is not meant to be the forum for arguments and against those wishes -- that can be done in another thread. Having that discussion here merely obstructs others, including the Alludo development team which hopefully will be going through this thread looking for suggestions, rather than arguments...

[TonyP]

I'd love Smartsound integration.

[Amir23]

I love the Universal Pictures logo (1990-1997).
Despite the passing of all these years, I still think it is the most beautiful logo in the history of cinema.
The music of this logo was a masterpiece by the late James Horner.

If you remember, a month ago, I posted a text about the imaginary plugin Element 3D in the same topic.
At the end of the text, I put two options against Alludo.
The first option is to create Element 3D plugin for VideoStudio and Pinnacle Studio, the second option is to revive MotionStudio software with more features than before.

I wish in the near future to be able to remake the 90s logo of Universal Pictures using the Element 3D plugin or the new MotionStudio software.

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[Vendelin Zatko]

I want VS 2024 to be able to rerender or export multi-hour videos without error: from 1 hour to about 5 hours.

[rwernyei]

Top Wish list for VS:

1) Stability - This is the most important request. Next release needs to be thoroughly tested on numerous builds. For consumer grade software, I expect it to be more stable than "professional/prosumer" software. You're not creating depth maps, AI voice isolation, tracking warped surfaces, 25 angles multi-camera support, built-in compositing, etc. Yet VS has been plagued with unaddressed bugs, instability and file format mismatch for years. Also, add necessary QT codecs upon installation.
2) Hardware Acceleration/GPU/CPU utilization. Maybe have the software developers look at the innards of Pinnacle Studio and integrate it into VS. Or look into Voukoder and it's source code to get more efficient encoding based on frameserving much like Debugmode FrameServer did with older Ulead/Corel products. https://www.voukoder.org/
3) SmartSound - Always preferred it over ScoreFitter
4) Dolby Digital 5.1 Surround Sound
5) Send Lead team to attend NAB and CES to get ideas for future features based on public feedback and then apply costs/resources analysis.

[ezeht]

Maybe add MP3 export support. Pinnacle and Roxio NXT9 has it but not Corel. MP3 helps make the total video file size smaller- and or for personal listening- again smaller size vs MP4 etc.

Maybe add the WinDVD Pro Media player for free, or at a very high discount, well better than 50% less for and being we are loyal customers. We pay good money for your software- you should give us a nice standalone media player to play all of our creations on. An included media player would set you apart from others and be a very good incentive to buy. Even WinDVD Lite for free with Corel and a low-cost upgrade to WinDVD Pro would be a good thing. You include all sorts of extra software most may never use- or not often. Why not give us the media player that will be used every day. If a really good player, we will have no more need for multi players like Windows Media Player or PotPlayer or VLC or GOM- other than if maybe they offer net radio stations. We mostly use the others because they are free and most have high quality play back of audio and or video- why buy a player. A very good player should come free with the editing software- and keep us in house. Maybe have your Devs check out JetAudio media player- the paid version- try and match the audio output of it. I have used many players and not 1 sounds as good as JetAudio for music playback. You do not have to add to or mod it for great sounding audio playback. You could even offer a different bundle option. Say 1- is your normal packages that include Project Enhancement Bundle- or 2- VideoStudio or both VS PS and WinDVD Pro bundle. Would be best to include all of it.

[cumminskK]

Could someone confirm whether VS2023 Ultimate still only supports two-channel audio (Dolby Digital) and hasn't reintroduced the six-channel option? I've purchased both the 2019 and 21 versions, but I'm still stuck using 2018, which is the last version that supports DD 6 channel sound

[Ken Berry]

I'm afraid, if you are after Dolby, that VS2023 still only supports dual channel stereo. If you are after 5.1 channel audio, you can still get it by going into Custom while in the Render tab, and you can choose PCM 5.1 audio. However, that of course is quite a bit larger than Dolby 5.1.

We were never sure why Corel dropped Dolby multi channel, but think it was to do with the fees Dolby charged. We are unaware of what the new owners, Alludo's, policy might be, though of course most of us would be happy to have Dolby back and fully operation across the spectrum.

[Amir23]

I wish more options to be added to the Face Effects filter.

I like being able to change the size of the nose and mouth in addition to the width of the face and the size of the eyes.

In general, I would like the Face Effects filter in VideoStudio to be similar to the Liquify filter in Adobe Photoshop.

I also like that the Face Effects filter is equipped with keyframes so that I can apply changes to the face over time.
This feature is especially suitable for face photos.

[Granpaw Broon]

With regards to Dolby 5.1 which was launched in 1997 by Dolby Laboratories, the Dolby Digital multichannel audio format was protected by a patent for 20 years which made it expensive to integrate but now the patent expired in February 2017, it has become easier for programmers to incorporate it as manufacturers no longer have to purchase a license from Dolby. I know VideoReDo added it after that time but for some reason Corel decided to remove it from their video editors from VS2019 onwards. Which is why I only use VS2018 Ultimate despite purchasing 2019 and 2021. So hopefully 2024 Ultimate will produce the goods.

[Amir23]

I think it's time to ditch the poor audio filters.

I would like to thank the development team for paying a lot of attention to the sound section in VS 2023.
They fixed the -36dB problem after a few years and also added audio cues, but the audio filters haven't been updated in years and offer poor performance.

Please replace better quality and more powerful audio filters with the current audio filters in VS 2024.