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Re: Wish List VideoStudio 2024

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A very interesting feature that I would like to see added to VideoStudio 2024 is the ability to type text on the path and also create animated text on the path.

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asik1 wrote: Mon Mar 06, 2023 6:21 pm
** Do you know that in VEGAS PRO , which is much much more "professional" then VS, in the titler you can't do multi fonts multi colors in the same title? in VS you can do so I think since ulead.
You are incorrect in this. Not only can you do this, but animate it also.
How to animate the titles: HERE
If you do not see Protype Titler, you have to enable it in Options>Preferences>Deprecated Features, and tick Enable ProType Titler.
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I may edit & Update later.

I would like the option to delete the Samples, Sounds & Backgrounds folders or just any subfolders.
Fix the crashing of the program.
Add a text glitch effect without having to add or download another program. A text effect like this https://youtu.be/1OsPdindXDY?t=717
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Re: Wish List VideoStudio 2024

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TonyP wrote: Sat Mar 18, 2023 5:33 pm
asik1 wrote: Mon Mar 06, 2023 6:21 pm
** Do you know that in VEGAS PRO , which is much much more "professional" then VS, in the titler you can't do multi fonts multi colors in the same title? in VS you can do so I think since ulead.
You are incorrect in this. Not only can you do this, but animate it also.
How to animate the titles: HERE
If you do not see Protype Titler, you have to enable it in Options>Preferences>Deprecated Features, and tick Enable ProType Titler.
Hey... I see now, why the hell they deprecated it? (Only the legacy titler was ticked here.)
Still, Vegas needs 3 different titlers that each has it's own issues with the workflow of titeling, where VS's is single powerful one.
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Re: Wish List VideoStudio 2024

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You can use ProType for all you text needs. You don't need the other ones. It's an option. Why is it deprecated? I can't answer that, but it's there and can do anything you want with text.
There are no issues with it that I am aware of. Just like VS has more than one title editor. You have with the Ultimate version, NBFX Titler Pro 5, 3D Title and the standard title editor.
Use what works best for that particular titling needs.
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HDR output.
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Please add 8K video export, some users will need it.
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Ahh...8K support. You need 8K monitor and 8K tv to see it. You also need 8K hardware. Your extremely old Phenom II processor will struggle with complex 1080HD.
I would really be interested in who actually is shooting in 8K in the consumer world, what wonderful cameras they are using (excluding variable frame rate cellphones), and what computer hardware they have to be able to edit those files.
You do know that VS2023 can import 8K, yes?
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TonyP wrote: Fri Mar 24, 2023 6:45 pm Ahh...8K support. You need 8K monitor and 8K tv to see it. You also need 8K hardware. Your extremely old Phenom II processor will struggle with complex 1080HD.
I would really be interested in who actually is shooting in 8K in the consumer world, what wonderful cameras they are using (excluding variable frame rate cellphones), and what computer hardware they have to be able to edit those files.
You do know that VS2023 can import 8K, yes?
Dear friend, I know that to watch video with 8K quality, the display must also support this quality.

You did not pay attention to what I said.
"Some users will need it," I said.
I used the word "some", now I may or may not be among some users.

I don't need 8K quality and I only said it for the sake of other users, because a user may shoot with 8K camera and then want to export his video in the same 8K quality.

Yes, I knew that VS 2023 has the ability to import videos with 8K quality.
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"Some users will need it", so cater to a very very small subset of video editors, invest the necessary finances to do this, at the expense of the majority who have posted issues.
Sorry, 8K is the next video "catch phrase" to try and market something that consumers, who have not adopted 4K en masse outside of buying a new flat TV that has it. How many 4K players are out there?
I am sure that Alludo has an idea of what users are using and what they are looking for.
There are other "bigger" fish to fry right now then having 8K for the minority.
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TonyP wrote: Fri Mar 31, 2023 7:04 pm "Some users will need it", so cater to a very very small subset of video editors, invest the necessary finances to do this, at the expense of the majority who have posted issues.
Sorry, 8K is the next video "catch phrase" to try and market something that consumers, who have not adopted 4K en masse outside of buying a new flat TV that has it. How many 4K players are out there?
I am sure that Alludo has an idea of what users are using and what they are looking for.
There are other "bigger" fish to fry right now then having 8K for the minority.
I did not understand much from your words.

Are you an Alludo attorney?

If this is the case, you should know that I sympathize enough for Alludo and that's why I am active in this topic; So I care about the progress of VideoStudio.

In a few years, 8K quality will be widespread.
Do you think there is anything wrong with adding 8K video export to VideoStudio 2024?

The ability to import 8K video was added to VideoStudio 2023, and as an improvement for next year's version, I suggested adding 8K video export.

You and I do not need 8K video export, but another user may need it.

Dear friend, Alludo employees read these posts. When you as a user do not welcome the development of VideoStudio, then what should you expect from the development team?

VideoStudio is no longer just a software for editing a birthday movie, but it has made good progress in the last few years and I hope it will attract the attention of professional users in the 2024 version.

Long live VideoStudio
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Amir23 wrote: Sat Apr 01, 2023 3:40 pm
TonyP wrote: Fri Mar 31, 2023 7:04 pm "Some users will need it", so cater to a very very small subset of video editors, invest the necessary finances to do this, at the expense of the majority who have posted issues.
Sorry, 8K is the next video "catch phrase" to try and market something that consumers, who have not adopted 4K en masse outside of buying a new flat TV that has it. How many 4K players are out there?
I am sure that Alludo has an idea of what users are using and what they are looking for.
There are other "bigger" fish to fry right now then having 8K for the minority.
I did not understand much from your words.

Are you an Alludo attorney?

If this is the case, you should know that I sympathize enough for Alludo and that's why I am active in this topic; So I care about the progress of VideoStudio.

In a few years, 8K quality will be widespread.
Do you think there is anything wrong with adding 8K video export to VideoStudio 2024?

The ability to import 8K video was added to VideoStudio 2023, and as an improvement for next year's version, I suggested adding 8K video export.

You and I do not need 8K video export, but another user may need it.

Dear friend, Alludo employees read these posts. When you as a user do not welcome the development of VideoStudio, then what should you expect from the development team?

VideoStudio is no longer just a software for editing a birthday movie, but it has made good progress in the last few years and I hope it will attract the attention of professional users in the 2024 version.

Long live VideoStudio
No, I am not an Alludo attorney. But I do know business and do know why Alludo took over, do you?
There is nothing wrong with being sympathetic towards software that someone uses. But Alludo is a business, and is only interested in profit/loss.

In a few years, maybe 8K might be more accepted in the main stream and prices get lower. But we are in the "here and now", and if you read through the forum, you will read about issues that affect users now. Not in a few years.
To affect changes for a tiny subset of those that use 8K (maybe a poll of users would answer this question for you) is not cost effective from a business standpoint. Again, when there are other issues that need to be addressed now that affect users now.
How many people actually own an 8K television? 8K ability to record? Hardware to actually be able to edit 8K? Where is the 8K demand from users outside of those companies that are pushing something new that you actually don't need now?

Are you sure Alludo reads these forums? Where do you get your information on this?
I never said I do not welcome development. How long have you been in these forums? I welcome fixing what is broken now, not adding something for a fractional percentage point of users, if they even exist.
Once that's done, on to other features.

As for VS attracting professional users, you have to define what a professional is. If you are talking about those that use Adobe Premiere After Effects/Media Composer/Final Cut/Vegas Pro/Davinci Resolve, sorry, VS isn't going to attract them.
Why?? Have you actually tried and edited with any of those programs? I think not. And those who edit professionally, well, those are the programs that they use, and for a reason.
Can VS use anything from BorisFX, Sapphire, Mocha Pro, Red Giant, VST2 and VST3, NeatVideo, or everything from Newblue FX? These are tools that professionals use within the software they work with, along with others.

VS hasn't been just a "birthday movie" editor for years, constantly adding new features. It's a tool. A very good one that produces great results within the confines of it's editing ability. An extremely competent video editing software that does punch up above it's weight.
But let's not be delusional... it doesn't import Red, BRAW. But it does handle ProRes pretty good importing, but doesn't export in ProRes. What would it cost Alludo for Apple certification for full ProRes import/export? The "pro" editors can do this. And would Alludo pay for this. I doubt it.

There is a lot of what VS can do, but there is a lot it can't. The question is, will Alludo invest in a product that has to compete with the 800lb gorilla in the room, Davinci Resolve FREE? Nope. Download it and try and run it, then get back to me. I have the paid version Resolve Studio 18.

I can see lobbying for Smartsound integration, something that older versions were able to use was Quicktracks.
And VS is a quality editor that can do some some pretty freakin' amazing things in the hands of someone who knows the software.
I personally want VS to be a huge success, and yes, grow. It is always highly recommended in PCMag

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I'm with Tony, I think it was a mistake to add that "8k import" thing into VS. In VS2025 maybe, but not now.
The only pro 8K reason I can think of is events photographers who uses VS and have very high end computer systems.
Is VS stable enough for 8K manipulations??? 1 video, 4 overlay's, 2 titles and 5 sound tracks ...... :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Everyone remember the 3D craze? Yes, I know someone (yes just one) person that shoots in it. Reading forums not many comment on it when it was first out. Lots of R&D, along with money and time went into implementing it. Where is it now.
360 view is out there too. And while maybe more popular, what are the comparison stats to those shooting still, just plain video. More R&D went into that also and more programming money and time.
All the while, bugs need attention.

This is not to say they aren't working on bugs, but the progress seems to be slow (look at how many updates).
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TonyP wrote: Sat Apr 01, 2023 6:23 pm No, I am not an Alludo attorney. But I do know business and do know why Alludo took over, do you?
There is nothing wrong with being sympathetic towards software that someone uses. But Alludo is a business, and is only interested in profit/loss.

In a few years, maybe 8K might be more accepted in the main stream and prices get lower. But we are in the "here and now", and if you read through the forum, you will read about issues that affect users now. Not in a few years.
To affect changes for a tiny subset of those that use 8K (maybe a poll of users would answer this question for you) is not cost effective from a business standpoint. Again, when there are other issues that need to be addressed now that affect users now.
How many people actually own an 8K television? 8K ability to record? Hardware to actually be able to edit 8K? Where is the 8K demand from users outside of those companies that are pushing something new that you actually don't need now?

Are you sure Alludo reads these forums? Where do you get your information on this?
I never said I do not welcome development. How long have you been in these forums? I welcome fixing what is broken now, not adding something for a fractional percentage point of users, if they even exist.
Once that's done, on to other features.

As for VS attracting professional users, you have to define what a professional is. If you are talking about those that use Adobe Premiere After Effects/Media Composer/Final Cut/Vegas Pro/Davinci Resolve, sorry, VS isn't going to attract them.
Why?? Have you actually tried and edited with any of those programs? I think not. And those who edit professionally, well, those are the programs that they use, and for a reason.
Can VS use anything from BorisFX, Sapphire, Mocha Pro, Red Giant, VST2 and VST3, NeatVideo, or everything from Newblue FX? These are tools that professionals use within the software they work with, along with others.
The first 8K TV was unveiled in 2012 and the first camera capable of recording 8K was unveiled in 2013.
My dear, this technology has been introduced to the public for about 10 years.

According to estimates made in recent years, this year the number of consumers and sales of 8K products should be much higher than the current figure, but in reality, the quality of 8K is still not widely receptioned.
I suppose the reason for this lack of reception is due to the following:

1- Watching 8K videos and images requires very large screens.
For example, to see 8K resolution, we need televisions above 60 or 70 inches, and we cannot see a difference between 4K and 8K qualities at lower inches.
Or consider a 32-inch monitor, in a monitor of this size, we cannot see much difference between 4K and 8K qualities.
So we need very large screens to see 8K resolution.
Considering the area of today's houses, as well as the short distance between people and monitors, sometimes it is unreasonable to use very large screens.

2- The widespread use of smart mobile phones and laptops.
Today, many people spend hours using such devices during the day.
Due to their small screens, these devices do not show much difference between Full HD and Ultra HD qualities.

3- 8K products are expensive.
Of course, if 8K products had many more customers than now, the price of the products would be cheaper.

4- There are few movies and television productions with 8K quality.

Now consider that 8K quality will not become widespread in 10 years, then what will be the task of users who use 8K products?
They will have to wait until VideoStudio 2033 adds 8K video export!!!
Your words are illogical, VideoStudio should move forward according to today's technology.
If a user needs 8K output and doesn't have access to it in VideoStudio, don't you think they might migrate to another company's software?
On the other hand, with the addition of 8K video export, users from other companies may be attracted to VideoStudio.

My dear, solving problems and bugs in the current version and improving performance is one of the duties of the software development team, but this is not their only duty.
Planning to increase the capabilities and facilities of the software in the next versions is also their other task.

Yes, I also agree that the current version has some problems that need to be fixed, but this is not a reason to be indifferent to the future of the software.

I've come to believe from experience that Alludo employees read our posts.
For example, in the topic related to Video Studio 2022 Wishlist, some of the wishes that users posted for the next year's version were fulfilled in VideoStudio 2022.
By the way, you posted the first wish in this topic.
Wasn't waveforms added in VS 2022?
Or in the topic related to VideoStudio 2023 Wishlist, some of the wishes we posted were fulfilled in VideoStudio 2023.
So the development team does not ignore our requests.

Wow, software like Adobe Premiere Pro and DaVinci Resolve are industry specific and used by film and media companies as well as large advertising companies.
I meant professional for home users.
Did you really think I meant to compare VideoStudio to software like Adobe Premiere Pro?!
Pinnacle Studio software is professional in my opinion, but professional in whose opinion?
Pinnacle Studio is truly professional for the home user, and VideoStudio is considered relatively professional for the home user due to its additional features.
Pinnacle Studio and VideoStudio are suitable for home users and small businesses, although Pinnacle Studio may also be used in industry.

Adobe After Effects is used to create visual effects and is not considered video editing software.

We only present our ideas in this topic, in the end it is up to the development team to decide which idea to accept and implement in the next version.
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