VS 2022 Crashing so much it has become unusable

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VS 2022 Crashing so much it has become unusable

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Well, I don't know what happened, but VS has started to crash at anything. I have tried all the standard troubleshooting, and it just keeps crashing. I did a complete uninstall and reinstall, cleaning up and restarting my PC in between. It crashed when I tried to add the first clip into the timeline. And this was a clip from my Sony camera which VS has always preferred and worked well with.

Anyone else having these kinds of problems?
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Had you loaded any of the New Blue filters? They cause a lot of trouble to people. In particularly, if you have New Blue Titler 5, which came with the package, loaded and obtain a later version (currently 7) and load that, it causes constant crashes.
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I did not install any New Blue stuff intentionally. I mean I always buy Ultimate and it has always had them in there. I never use them because they never have worked for me.

I just finished editing a video that should have taken an hour but took four because of all the crashes. I am just about to drop VS. It is ridiculous.
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jungleexplorer wrote: Thu Feb 23, 2023 2:58 pm Well, I don't know what happened, but VS has started to crash at anything. ....
Jungle, one tiny thing you didn't tell
Did this started just yesterday, after many successful fine projects you did in recent months?
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It has gotten worse in the last couple of weeks but it has been happening ever since I uninstalled and reinstalled it the first time. When I first upgraded to VS 2022, I installed the SP2 patch and then later was informed on here that it caused the drop frame glitch. But, that installation was very stable and almost never crashed. However, there were some other glitches I was experiencing that I covered in a different thread, so I uninstalled VS and reinstalled it, not applying the SP2 patch. Since that time, I have been having random freezes and crashes. When I say freezes, I mean that I must use CTRL, ALT, DELETE to kill the program and restart it. When I say crash, I mean that the program just shuts down without warning and needs to be restarted. In neither of these cases am I getting any kind of error code to tell me WHY the program is messing up. I am also not talking about crashes and freezes caused by the dreaded Format Mismatch problem that VS has always had. I am talking about crashes and freezes that occur during normal operations like trying to trim a clip, preview a clip, add a transition, etc. Sometimes the program crashes when I just select a clip from the timeline or the library.

Last night after finally finishing my video, upon reviewing the rendered video file, I noticed a small sequencing error. When I went back to try to fix it in the project, VS crashed. When VS restarted and recovered the project, even everything was WAY out of sequence. Completely different sections of the video were in place of what I had selected. I had to start the whole project from scratch.

I don't know what to do. I am way behind on production.
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Jungle, it sounds like you have not installed SP3, so what build of VS2022 are you running, the current build including SP3 is 25.3.0.584, which corrected a lot of previous issues
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I am running the latest version.
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I disabled hardware acceleration, and got about two minutes of editing done before it froze up.
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Restart PC. Load VS, Load Project, Click on timeline......FREEZE!!! What a freaking royal pain in the rear VS is right now!
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What happens if you try to create a project using only the sample clips and images, does it still crash
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Well, I did a fresh uninstall and reinstall since my last post. I downloaded the VS clean Up tool and used it to uninstall VS. Then I ran a system cleaner and cleaned all garbage registry files. I then disabled all non-essential startup apps, and restarted my PC, and reinstalled VS, only installing the main program. I loaded up my project and was finally able to finish editing and rendering it.

So far so good. Maybe it was the bonus feature that was causing the problem.
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jungleexplorer wrote: Fri Feb 24, 2023 9:19 pm It has gotten worse in the last couple of weeks but it has been happening ever since I uninstalled and reinstalled it the first time. When I first upgraded to VS 2022, I installed the SP2 patch and then later was informed on here that it caused the drop frame glitch. But, that installation was very stable and almost never crashed. However, there were some other glitches I was experiencing that I covered in a different thread, so I uninstalled VS and reinstalled it, not applying the SP2 patch. Since that time, I have been having random freezes and crashes. When I say freezes, I mean that I must use CTRL, ALT, DELETE to kill the program and restart it. When I say crash, I mean that the program just shuts down without warning and needs to be restarted. In neither of these cases am I getting any kind of error code to tell me WHY the program is messing up. I am also not talking about crashes and freezes caused by the dreaded Format Mismatch problem that VS has always had. I am talking about crashes and freezes that occur during normal operations like trying to trim a clip, preview a clip, add a transition, etc. Sometimes the program crashes when I just select a clip from the timeline or the library.

Last night after finally finishing my video, upon reviewing the rendered video file, I noticed a small sequencing error. When I went back to try to fix it in the project, VS crashed. When VS restarted and recovered the project, even everything was WAY out of sequence. Completely different sections of the video were in place of what I had selected. I had to start the whole project from scratch.


I don't know what to do. I am way behind on production.
I have exactly the same problem with VS Ultimate 2022 installed in december 2022. It's frustrating when it crashes and you loose what you did. I don't stop having ads from Corel to update to 2023 version and I just bought 2022. I don't want to spend any more money for a program that is bugging so often.
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Well, it is back to crashing constantly. Does anyone have any suggestions for another program that is better? No, not Adobe.
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Marc J wrote: Mon Feb 27, 2023 6:50 pm
jungleexplorer wrote: Fri Feb 24, 2023 9:19 pm It has gotten worse in the last couple of weeks but it has been happening ever since I uninstalled and reinstalled it the first time. When I first upgraded to VS 2022, I installed the SP2 patch and then later was informed on here that it caused the drop frame glitch. But, that installation was very stable and almost never crashed. However, there were some other glitches I was experiencing that I covered in a different thread, so I uninstalled VS and reinstalled it, not applying the SP2 patch. Since that time, I have been having random freezes and crashes. When I say freezes, I mean that I must use CTRL, ALT, DELETE to kill the program and restart it. When I say crash, I mean that the program just shuts down without warning and needs to be restarted. In neither of these cases am I getting any kind of error code to tell me WHY the program is messing up. I am also not talking about crashes and freezes caused by the dreaded Format Mismatch problem that VS has always had. I am talking about crashes and freezes that occur during normal operations like trying to trim a clip, preview a clip, add a transition, etc. Sometimes the program crashes when I just select a clip from the timeline or the library.

Last night after finally finishing my video, upon reviewing the rendered video file, I noticed a small sequencing error. When I went back to try to fix it in the project, VS crashed. When VS restarted and recovered the project, even everything was WAY out of sequence. Completely different sections of the video were in place of what I had selected. I had to start the whole project from scratch.


I don't know what to do. I am way behind on production.
I have exactly the same problem with VS Ultimate 2022 installed in december 2022. It's frustrating when it crashes and you loose what you did. I don't stop having ads from Corel to update to 2023 version and I just bought 2022. I don't want to spend any more money for a program that is bugging so often.
Hey Marc J / jungleexplorer, I can fully commiserate with your pain. I've been experiencing severe crashing of VS2020 and VS2021. I'm convinced the codding/memory management/error handling in this application is crap and the only real solution is a rewrite from the ground up which Corel will never endeavour into. I abandoned my project a few months bank and then took a leap of faith for VS2023 thinking 2 versions ahead would have resolved many of these issues. Man was I deeply disappointed. VS 2023 crashes ever more now since they added an automatic "timeline preview scrubbing" just hovering over the timeline. You can disable that in the preferences General --> deselect "Enable timeline preview scrubbing".

Have you tried turning off all of the Performance items in settings?

I also managed to get some relief (I think) by uninstalling, using the cleaning tool and then installing the base program, running it, then subsequently installing the other bundles and bonus features. I don't know how much it helped but it seemed to be a bit more stable but maybe I'm just fooling myself.
There are claims about certain Filters like New Blue messing things up. I think that was in VS2020 but not in 2021. It *may* have been added back in for 2022 (I skipped that version) and I do see New Blue FX in VS2023.

Corel support is exceptionally poor with only canned answers and/or looking for a full system dump to upload to their systems for analysis which I'm not comfortable doing. If Corel can't create stable software, I wouldn't think their internal systems and controls are any better or more stable or secure. It would be great to support a long-standing Canadian tech company but I have no idea how they remain in business. Perhaps fools like me that just paid for the VS2023 upgrade with the same unstable and crashing application.

Good luck and I'll share if I discover anything that will help.
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dalessad wrote: Mon Feb 27, 2023 8:01 pm
Hey Marc J / jungleexplorer, I can fully commiserate with your pain. I've been experiencing severe crashing of VS2020 and VS2021. I'm convinced the codding/memory management/error handling in this application is crap and the only real solution is a rewrite from the ground up which Corel will never endeavour into. I abandoned my project a few months bank and then took a leap of faith for VS2023 thinking 2 versions ahead would have resolved many of these issues. Man was I deeply disappointed. VS 2023 crashes ever more now since they added an automatic "timeline preview scrubbing" just hovering over the timeline. You can disable that in the preferences General --> deselect "Enable timeline preview scrubbing".

Have you tried turning off all of the Performance items in settings?

I also managed to get some relief (I think) by uninstalling, using the cleaning tool and then installing the base program, running it, then subsequently installing the other bundles and bonus features. I don't know how much it helped but it seemed to be a bit more stable but maybe I'm just fooling myself.
There are claims about certain Filters like New Blue messing things up. I think that was in VS2020 but not in 2021. It *may* have been added back in for 2022 (I skipped that version) and I do see New Blue FX in VS2023.

Corel support is exceptionally poor with only canned answers and/or looking for a full system dump to upload to their systems for analysis which I'm not comfortable doing. If Corel can't create stable software, I wouldn't think their internal systems and controls are any better or more stable or secure. It would be great to support a long-standing Canadian tech company but I have no idea how they remain in business. Perhaps fools like me that just paid for the VS2023 upgrade with the same unstable and crashing application.

Good luck and I'll share if I discover anything that will help.
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Today, I downloaded Davinci Resolve. Holy moly, what a beautiful program. So wonderfully laid out and user-friendly. I just finished my first video with it, a video I have been trying to get done for two days with VS. Sure there has been a learning curve, but they have amazing tutorial videos that show you exactly want to do. Powerful does not describe it. Not a single crash. Smooth editing and crystal clear previews while editing. Color grading options out the wazoo. The timeline interface is unbelievable. Everything I wished VS had, Davinci has, and much more.

It was so nice to edit without freezes and crashes.
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