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Jus Upgraded to 2022. Any surprises or glitches I should expect?

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So, once a year I wait for Corel to send me the 65% Off deal where I can buy VS for $35. Got the offer yesterday and bit. Got it installed last night, and when I went to use it today, it already had a big UPDATE ready to go. I did not do a lot of research before upgrading, so I am just wondering if there are some issues or surprises I should watch for in this new version. The one thing I immediately noticed was the Sound Wave visible in the video track without having to switch over to soundwave mode. That is worth the upgrade for me all by itself.
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There have been many complaints running Video Studio 2022 after installing the latest patch. V 25.2.0.***

Corel are aware of problems and hopefully working on a fix.

In the meantime I would advise you to re-install VS 2022 to version 25.1.0.472,

You will be prompted to install the update patch, I would ignore that however annoying it becomes.
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The one big surprise is in fact that Update you mentioned. If you haven't already installed it, then I would urge you NOT to do so; or else uninstall and reinstall VS 2022 and ignore the update messages. Some users -- including me -- have had a variety of problems with VS since the update was installed. Corel/Alludo is aware and has acknowledged they can copy at least one of the problems. So we are now waiting for further action from them. We have urged them to withdraw the update while they attempt to fix it.
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Awe crap! I already installed it. Dang! Guess it is more work for me. Thanks for the heads up.
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There's a clean-up tool for VS 2022 at https://forum.corel.com/viewtopic.php?p=329686#p329686 which should make your job easier. Anyway, it shouldn't take too much time, and the problems which came with the update make some aspects of the program virtually unusable. So it's definitely worthwhile to uninstall...
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The one issue that I have seen with 2022 that was not there in 2021 is when you are playing a preview of the project. It takes a few seconds for the video to catch up once you hit play which is super annoying and you have to start earlier where you start playing to see the preview with the correct video.
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I see no such problem or I don't understand exactly what problem you are having. Catching up to what?
When I start playing in the preview window it starts at the point I selected. How would you start playing earlier then the beginning
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I think he may be talking about the cue and possibly the audio starting immediately you press the play button, but the video only starting to play some time after that. I've certainly noticed that from time to time, and it is usually telling me I should be using Smart Proxy...
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Hi
I had the impression that Video Studio 2022+ sp2 was a little slower to react to changes, refresh rates being slower.
Adding a video shows the messages, seemed a little slower to display that panel. Difficult to compare as we cannot run 2022 with and without sp2 at the same time.
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So, I decided to try to work with it before doing the downgrade and worked on a couple of small projects. Didn't really see a whole lot of problems. It froze up a couple times when jumping to different areas of the track, if the jump was a big one. In 2021, I would have had to use Ctrl Alt Delete to end VS, but I was able to recover from these freezes in 2022 by right click on the VS icon on the Start bar and clicking Close, which would unfreeze VS and bring up the Save Project dialogue, which I just clicked on Cancel and was able to continue editing. So far, I am enjoying 2022 a lot more than 2021. 2021 was always very glitchy for me. There were quite a few things I just got comfortable dealing with, but I never really enjoyed 2021. The new audio wave visible on the video track is a real-time saver for me. Probably the best upgrade I have seen in VS in a long time. The new native audio options seem a like they might be good once I learn how to use them.
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The service patch 2 is affecting the way some Mpeg4 video plays back, causing duplicate frames thus affecting quality, this was also present after rendering.
You should read this post
https://forum.corel.com/viewtopic.php?t=69617

We do not know the extent of problems for Mpeg4 nor if this affects other formats.
Corel are aware of this problem, I was hoping they would have removed the Service Pack till they had provided a fix.
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lata wrote: Sat Nov 12, 2022 5:01 pm The service patch 2 is affecting the way some Mpeg4 video plays back, causing duplicate frames thus affecting quality, this was also present after rendering.
You should read this post
https://forum.corel.com/viewtopic.php?t=69617

We do not know the extent of problems for Mpeg4 nor if this affects other formats.
Corel are aware of this problem, I was hoping they would have removed the Service Pack till they had provided a fix.
Hum...? I did not see this my renders. I am using the Sony A6500, and I record in 4K 30fps. That thread you linked to seems to indicate that problem was occurring with people recording at 24fps. I rendered four small projects, and I am not seeing any issues with them that I can notice.
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Yes, the user in that thread was indeed using 24 fps. But as we looked more closely, we found that it also affects other classes of mp4, including 4K 30 fps and 25 fps. The problem may be in the way VS 2022 with the patch plays clips, rather than actually creating a new frame in the clip itself. As Trevor has said, Corel/Alludo techs have replicated the problem and done so in more than just 24 fps video. We are still waiting for them to withdraw the Update till the matter is solved. And if you are a lucky user not actually seeing the problem, then as I say, lucky you! But for those seeing it, then all we can suggest right now is to uninstall the update VS 2022 and reinstall build 472.

For those not sure how to view their videos frame by individual frame, this might be helpful. I usually roll the video clip out to its full magnification -- Ctrl + mouse wheel -- though this is not strictly necessary though it gives you visually each and every frame in the clip. Then I click on the Next button to the right of Play button under the preview screen -- see attached screenshot. Each click takes you forward one frame. So you can see what is in each frame at your own speed. If you do this with, say, sample clip of the girl in the 360 clip which comes with VS, then when she moves, you should see two frames showing movement and the third is still. This will be the same for any other clip with action in it.

Mind you, this is all assuming that you have already applied the Update patch with VS 2022. If you haven't, then you won't have the problem.
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Ken Berry wrote: Sat Nov 12, 2022 7:56 pm Yes, the user in that thread was indeed using 24 fps. But as we looked more closely, we found that it also affects other classes of mp4, including 4K 30 fps and 25 fps. The problem may be in the way VS 2022 with the patch plays clips, rather than actually creating a new frame in the clip itself. As Trevor has said, Corel/Alludo techs have replicated the problem and done so in more than just 24 fps video. We are still waiting for them to withdraw the Update till the matter is solved. And if you are a lucky user not actually seeing the problem, then as I say, lucky you! But for those seeing it, then all we can suggest right now is to uninstall the update VS 2022 and reinstall build 472.

For those not sure how to view their videos frame by individual frame, this might be helpful. I usually roll the video clip out to its full magnification -- Ctrl + mouse wheel -- though this is not strictly necessary though it gives you visually each and every frame in the clip. Then I click on the Next button to the right of Play button under the preview screen -- see attached screenshot. Each click takes you forward one frame. So you can see what is in each frame at your own speed. If you do this with, say, sample clip of the girl in the 360 clip which comes with VS, then when she moves, you should see two frames showing movement and the third is still. This will be the same for any other clip with action in it.

Mind you, this is all assuming that you have already applied the Update patch with VS 2022. If you haven't, then you won't have the problem.

Okay. Now I see what you are talking about, and yes, in the EDIT preview, if I go frame by frame, I can see the issue. I have reviewed some renders, and the renders are clean of the issue, there are no replicated frames in the renders I have done.
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