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Audio Sync Frustration

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I have gone from Power Direct to the brand new VideoStudio 2022. All I want to do is sync clips that are mimed to a pre-recorded studio audio track. The band is miming so the audio track is on the video track. The only way I can find of syncing this is to go to the multi camera editor. I put the video clip and the audio clip in the editor and it syncs.... no problem.

In Power Director, this is all done in the main editing window. Once synced you can delete the audio track on the video and group the synced audio to the video.

When I come out of the synced multi editor it doesn't put it in the main editor. The only option I have is to save it as a .vst which, when pulled into the main editor just gives me 3 seconds of blank. Please don't tell me this editor cannot do this simple function.

Please post a help video on this if it does.

Thanks..... Mark
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You haven't indicated what you want to sync audio with: ordinarily, a video clip has embedded audio. In PD, that audio is displayed in a separate track below the video. And you can create that effect using the sound mixer item in the TL tool bar. But from your sparse description I'm assuming you want to sync the audio track from one clip to another which has miming singers . .

So,
1. insert the clip with the audio track you want into the VS timeline
2. select that clip, rt-click and choose audio from the list (down near the bottom), and then 'split audio' from the sub-list
3. the audio track is extracted from the video clip and shown as a separate file in the audio track. Now delete the TL video clip, leaving just the audio track in your project.
4. Choose share mode, computer icon (top of tool bar) and then the audio strip icon.
5. select the format you want from the panel, the location and filename for the resulting file, and click on the start button
6. the audio file is now accessible as a separate file.
7. create a new project and insert the video clip containing the miming singers in the TL. Import the audio file you just created into the audio track, and sync it (by hand, click n drag as needed, expand the TL using the + symbol if required) using any sound element that matches the miming singers.
8. Select Share and render the combined result giving a single clip with miming video and your preferred sound track.
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Hi Mark
And welcome to the forums
I am reading your post a little differently to David
I am assuming the video does contain an audio stream so using MCCE we can sync the two clips, Video and Audio.
Switching to Audio view will display the wave form helping to recognise the sync.

Once synced make sure you selected camera angle 1, (Top left) the preview screen to the right should show your video.
Choose Audio 1 as the main audio source
Pressing OK will return to VS timelines, a project file VSP is placed within the library, (not automatically on the timeline) drag this VSP to the top timeline and your Video and Audio should show in sync.
(I am unsure why you mentioned .vst) is that a typo?

The video is muted, to view the wave forms again we have to unmute then switching to Sound Mixer will show both wave forms, of course you will need the video muted before rendering.

Oh when first opening MCCE, go to settings cogwheel top left for Save As to give the project a meaningful name, may help to id the VSP rather than using MultiCam01.vsp
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OK,,,,, Still very frustrated. Thanks for the replies. I sync the video, which has a poor quality version of the audio track to enable syncing, to the audio track. I select camera 1 which gives me the synced video in the multi camera track. I select the audio track and then OK.

In the main window I drag it to the timeline and get the synced video and the audio track in Music track. I mute the video audio track and find that the studio music track has now got the video music track audio, not the original studio version.

Instead of the synced studio track being in Music 1, it is a copy of the video audio track. It's hard to believe that syncing audio can be so difficult as it is standard for even novice video makers to record a separate high quality audio track, unless you have a high end video camera. If you record a band, you will use the mixer track, not the recorded video track with all the ambient noise.
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From my image in previous post what have you selected as the Audio source, I have selected Audio 1
Is your selection still pointing to Camera 1
Double click the VSP within the library to open MCCE to continue editing.
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Sorry Trevor, I don't understand. The sync has worked but when I press OK and bring the file to the main timeline, the audio in Music 1 is the same track as the audio on the video.
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OMG..... I see what you mean now..... I didn't even notice that menu. That was a real pain. Thanks Trevor. When you said choose Audio Track 1, I thought you were talking about the track in the timeline. You needed say pull down menu.
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Sorry for any confusion, I thought the image would have helped.

I assume you have now managed to sync the clips correctly.
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