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Trouble moving text box

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(PSP 2022 Ultimate) Applying text to a vector layer of a .pspimage file, and following the "Working with Text ... To create text" segment (pp 389-390) of the Corel® PaintShop® Pro 2022 User Guide, I am unable to move or resize the text box, with newly typed text, to my preferred location in my Vector 2 layer. :(

I have "Applied" the entered text, but when I drag the "four-way arrow" to a new position, the text box bounces back to its original high-left position in the vector layer image.” I cannot find any "locked" properties. The collage file has five raster layers (base plus 4 with single images), and two vector layers (background base color, plus layer for the text box).

Perhaps the problem is my misunderstanding the instructions, or a software bug, or … ? Is there a limit on objects, beyond which some objects can't be moved or resized?

Advice will be appreciated! :)
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Re: Trouble moving text box

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Did you make the text over a selection? I have seen similar behavior when using text wrapping in a selection.l box.
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Re: Trouble moving text box

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Thanks, by LeviFiction. I don't understand the term, "make the text over a selection." I had entered the text in a new text box in a vector layer, top layer in the collage-build file. I have not noticed if text-wrapping was on, or where to check for same, though I didn't find any relevant features in the object's properties.
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I mean was there a literal selection on a raster layer around where you clicked with the tex tool. When you add text and the text tool is over a selection it uses the selection as a bounding box for text-wrapping.
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Re: Trouble moving text box

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I think not. When I clicked the Text tool, then clicked anywhere in the Vector 2 layer on top, a cursor appeared in the vector layer box. PSP did not let me place any text box in any shape or other location other than top left corner of the layer. One raster layer had a picture element located BELOW the upper left corner in which I was keying the text box in the Vector Layer 2 on top, but I had first selected the Vector Layer 2 before clicking the Text Tool, then clicked upper left of the work screen and keyed the text, while the Layers Palette indicated that the Vector 2 layer was still selected. After I "applied" the text entry, the text bounding box appeared. Then I chose the Pick tool, but PSP will not let me move or resize the text box.
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Re: Trouble moving text box

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First, good news I got that backwards. It's when word wrapping is attached to vector shape that it won't move. You have to move the shape to move the text. Raster selection frames you can move all you want.

Second, It doesn't matter what layer you selected first, PSP attempts to be "helpful"...like Excel with dates. When you hover the text tool over either another vector shape (on any layer) or over a raster selection it attempts to use that shape as a bounding box for word-wrapping.

Here is a demo video of that: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1rT1u1J ... sp=sharing

You'll notice there are three main cursors with the text tool: 1) Crosshairs with a T in the corner. (normal) 2) Corsshairs with a [T] in brackets in the corner (word-wrapping) and 3) Cross hairs with a T rotated along a curve (attach text to curve)

Word-wrapping can use both raster selections and vector shapes. In the video you saw when I hovered over a shape the cursor changed to #2 - and if I click while the cursor looks like this it'll map the cursor to the bounding box of that shape. As I type it'll auto-wrap the text to stay within the bounding box. The same is true with a raster selection. Now, with a raster selection I can move the text anywhere I want after editing it and applying the changes. But once I go back in to edit the text it'll jump right back to where the selection was.

If I do Text Wrapping inside of a shape, I cannot move the text. It is bound to the shape. I have to move the vector shape to move the text.

If I hover over just the edge of the vector shape it'll change the cursor to #3. And the text will follow the curve of the path that makes up the vector shape.

If I'm not on a raster or a vector the cursor will look like #1. Just a regular Text item and it'll let me place the text anywhere I want.

So, how do you avoid modes 2 and 3? You have three options: 1) Hide the shape that you've hovering over before adding text to the area. It'll just add a plain text object and nothing more. You can then reveal the vector shape again without worrying about them getting connected.
2) You can click in a blank area of the canvas and move the text after you're done creating it.
3) You can try an old trick that might still work, hold the ALT key before clicking with your mouse to create the text item. It should keep the cursor as a standard T (#1) and not map to the curve or text wrapping.
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Re: Trouble moving text box

Post by ArveyWander »

OK, Thanks! I completed the download. Now I have some study and trials to do. Sounds like progress! :)
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Re: Trouble moving text box

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My problem was in trying to enter text directly on a layer, giving me No Control! Instead …

Click the Shape tool (Rectangle usually) and draw a box in a vector layer. If we try to draw it in a raster layer, PSP places it in a new vector layer, unbound, difficult (impossible?) to control.

Click the Text tool and click within the new shape. PSP places the cursor in the upper left of the shape. Set text properties, enter text, Apply. Click Pick tool and adjust the shape dimensions to display the text. Adjust text and shape properties until satisfied.

Thanks, LeviFiction!
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