First loaded video colours are wrong

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First loaded video colours are wrong

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1st time use the first loaded video colours are wrong, I get sometimes needing to make minor tweaks but this is just way off, the raw video displays fine in VLC but loaded in VS red displays as blue. My guess this is some sort of preset in VS out of the box but I can't seem to figure out what it is. If I can't figure it out I will have to move on I can't spend hours colour correcting every video, again colours load fine in VLC and VSDC.

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Re: First loaded video colours are wrong

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Welcome to the forum.

It would be useful if you would tell us what sort of camera you use to make the videos in the first place. It would also be very helpful if you could right click one of your uncorrected videos in the Video Studio timeline. Then choose Properties, and post them here, either in writing or take a screenshot of the Properties box and post it here as an Attachment. For that you need to enable the "Full Editor & Preview" button directly below the Reply box. You will see the Attachment button there. With those Properties there may be some indication why you are getting the unusual color flip...
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Re: First loaded video colours are wrong

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The camera is a Lorex 4k security camera, I save the raw video at 4k to my computer
and go from there. I usually drop it to 2.5k

The photo clip I included I know its a bit hard to see but the "blue" bird on the left feeder is
a Cardinal it should be red. The bird bath is green, the 4x4's and 2x6 are not that colour.

I have also included an image I use sometimes actual and how it appears in VS its not blue
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I've looked up the Lorex, though found there are a number of 4K cameras in their range. It is also not clear to me exactly how you capture video from the camera: is the camera somehow directly connected to your computer (via cable or wifi)? I note from the Lorex setup guide that the cameras are usually connected via cable to a network video recorder (NVR): see page 2 of https://www.lorextechnology.com/downloa ... R2_web.pdf Moreover, Lorex says their cameras will only work with certain NVRs, which are listed at https://www.lorex.com/pages/compatibility?dt=NVR

So it would be useful to know you have your camera set up to capture video, and whether any separate software came with the camera for capture purposes...

In addition, do you have a Dropbox account or something similar which would allow you to post a short clip from the camera showing the color inversion. That way we could download the sample and see how it performs on our computers...
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The Camera setup has its own software 'Lorex cloud" which handles multiple cameras and stores the 4k video on an NVR
the software allows you to view any of the cameras past saves and copy out clips and save as avi's.

The clips I am attempting to edit in VS are saves from the stored video on the NVR. One particular camera that records my
bird feeders, this camera also streams to youtube but I think that is immaterial to this discussion.

Here is a clip I edited in VSDC and uploaded to youtube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnTzWAuEVkw

As you can see there is no problems with the colours in general no switch to blue. If I put this in VS, the icons would be blue, the bird bath & platform feeders would not be
green the hummingbird feeder would be blue when its red, the deer that shows up in this clip comes out some sort of silver colour.

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Re: First loaded video colours are wrong

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As Ken requested can you provide a short clip of the original recording then we can view on our PC hopefully experiencing the colour change, thanks
By the way nice feeders
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Re: First loaded video colours are wrong

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Thank you, its a work in progress with a definite learning curve.

It would not let me save a .avi file so I rename it .zip you will have to rename to test.avi

this is a raw video clip as it comes off the NVR to keep under the 10m limit its very short 10sec
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Re: First loaded video colours are wrong

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I am just taking a stab in the dark, I don't really know enough to pretend I know what I am talking about
but could the software be set to "CMYK" and the monitor "RGB" causing the colour shift?

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bwalton wrote: The photo clip I included I know its a bit hard to see but the "blue" bird on the left feeder is a Cardinal it should be red. The bird bath is green
Couldn't find a cardinal in your test.avi clip, but the green bird bath was there.

You don't say which version of VS that you're using, but the following image shows that VS2018 rendered a MP4 video with colours matching those in your test.avi clip.
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Using some filters, you could spruce-up your video clips.

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Using VS 2022, maybe an older version would work better for me.
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Re: First loaded video colours are wrong

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I use VS 2022 and get an identical result to that of tletter. The feeders at either end are a brassy color (not sure where you got red unless you changed the feeder), and the two in the middle have green highlights -- especially the plate on the triangular chain which is a dark green. The other one's top and hanging wire are also green. The pigeons all look the color pigeons normally have, as indeed does everything else.

I imagine VS 2022, like previous versions, uses RGB color. I am not even sure how one would impose a CMYK color scheme but would imagine it would require a filter at least. I also suspect that CMYK would affect all colors, not just one or two. But since the video which comes from your NVR plays and renders with normal colors in my VS 2022 and and tletter's VS 2018, the problem would appear to be at your end -- though I am not sure what it might be.

I don't know if you have already looked, but you could have inadvertently applied a filter. With a clip from your NVR in the timeline, click on the tiny blue square where the red arrow in my screenshot is pointing. If in fact you find there is a filter active in the screen which appears, then click on the X where the green arrow is pointing, which closes whatever filter is operating.
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Re: First loaded video colours are wrong

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Thanks for the reply, I really appreciate everyone's help.

I can only suspect its some sort of setting on my end but I cant fathom what it could be.
I have 3 monitors on this computer and they all show the same. I downloaded and tried 2018
and its the same. I also updated my graphics driver just in caseThere were no filters.
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The only other thing I can thing of would be to try this. Close VS. Right click on the desktop VS icon. Choose Properties at the bottom of the dropdown menu which appears; then choose the Compatibility tab. Down towards the bottom of that tab tick the box beside "Use legacy display ICC color management". Then click Apply and OK your way out of the Properties box. Restart VS and see if the color problem is still there or not.
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I am beginning to think I am in the twilight zone :)

That option is not there
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That's very strange. OK, press the very bottom button "Change settings for all users". On the new page which appears, do you have a button there for "Use legacy display ICC color management"? If so, press that one...
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