I'm a new to psp and I'm trying to remove the text from the image in the attachment, while keeping the pattern in the background.
I tried selecting parst of the image containing the pattern and copy pasting the selections on top of the text, but this only gave me a ton of layers and was not manageable at all. Also you could clearly see where the pattern was copied and pasted.
And sometimes when I moved my selection, the original image was kept, and sometimes when I move my selection the selection was cut out of the image and a white background was visible??? why, no clue what I did differntly between the two tries?
Then I gave up on that approach and tried the clone tool but it doens't work as I expect it to work. It seems to require several passes to have any effect. I also have totally no clue what preset brush and/or settings I need to configure in the top clone toolbar to get the result I want.
You can see the mess I have created in the second attachment.
I suppose there is a better way to do this?
Can some veteran please guide me on this task.
Thx
Nirious
REQ HELP: how to remove text on background with pattern?
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Re: REQ HELP: how to remove text on background with pattern?
Personally I think the clone tool is the best tool for the job. Though I will lay out some other options.
This is always going to be hard because it's a pattern overlaid over an image creating a moire effect. And way too many lines and pieces to match up to get anything to look good. Anything automated isn't going to match up perfectly, there's always going to be evidence that it's not quite right.
The fastest method is to use the Magic Fill. The problem with magic fill is it attempts to match similar areas and fill in the selected spots with a pattern that more or less works. The larger the area, the more pattern it has to create. Which also means it'll pull in areas that don't quite fit just because they're close. So there is setup needed to try and force this to work as well as possible. Which means it's just as likely to pull in the title box or the character into the pattern making it really ugly.
There is another tool called "Object Remover" that's in the same button group as the clone tool. Just click on the down arrow next to the clone tool to open up the list of additional tools. Object remover works like this, you select an area you want to remove with the lasso tool built into the Object Remover. Once you have a selection then the "source mode" tool (just a rectangle select) becomes available and you want to choose an area of roughly the same size as your selection. PSP will attempt to match the texture from the source to the destination. It's not quit the same as magic fill, but it does let you limit where it's pulling the texture from.
With smoother areas I could also recommend the blemish fixer brush found in the Makeover tools but this tool is made for skin textures. The tons of detail just make it look like you're scratching out the letters rather than drawing in the same pattern.
With the clone brush you mentioned previously that it didn't seem to do much. There are three settings I would recommend you check. 1) Opacity - make sure the opacity on the brush is set high, the lower it is the less of the pattern you sample will affect the result. 2) In the materials Palette make sure you don't have any textures turned on. Textures will break up the application of the sampled pattern. 3) Brush Head - make sure you're using the default solid round brush.
I also recommend a hardness of 100 or close to it, because blending edges that don't quite match will look smudged otherwise.
Then zoom way in. You'll notice most of the pattern is made up of these flower petals. If you match the brush size to one of these petals and sample that you might get a cleaner result while cloning. I also recommend turning off "aligned mode" this will snap the sample point back to where you first set it after you finish a brush stroke. This will force you to re-sample areas often, but you're more or less just dabbing a clone over the letters keeping the strokes as small as possible. Just one letter at a time, matching up the lines with the pattern as much as possible and sticking to resampling as the background changes in density and color.
It'll be tedious but potentially worth it. Just match the sample overlay as closely with surrounding edges and that should help. You can see I've removed the top line here, and it was so boring I stopped.
This is always going to be hard because it's a pattern overlaid over an image creating a moire effect. And way too many lines and pieces to match up to get anything to look good. Anything automated isn't going to match up perfectly, there's always going to be evidence that it's not quite right.
The fastest method is to use the Magic Fill. The problem with magic fill is it attempts to match similar areas and fill in the selected spots with a pattern that more or less works. The larger the area, the more pattern it has to create. Which also means it'll pull in areas that don't quite fit just because they're close. So there is setup needed to try and force this to work as well as possible. Which means it's just as likely to pull in the title box or the character into the pattern making it really ugly.
There is another tool called "Object Remover" that's in the same button group as the clone tool. Just click on the down arrow next to the clone tool to open up the list of additional tools. Object remover works like this, you select an area you want to remove with the lasso tool built into the Object Remover. Once you have a selection then the "source mode" tool (just a rectangle select) becomes available and you want to choose an area of roughly the same size as your selection. PSP will attempt to match the texture from the source to the destination. It's not quit the same as magic fill, but it does let you limit where it's pulling the texture from.
With smoother areas I could also recommend the blemish fixer brush found in the Makeover tools but this tool is made for skin textures. The tons of detail just make it look like you're scratching out the letters rather than drawing in the same pattern.
With the clone brush you mentioned previously that it didn't seem to do much. There are three settings I would recommend you check. 1) Opacity - make sure the opacity on the brush is set high, the lower it is the less of the pattern you sample will affect the result. 2) In the materials Palette make sure you don't have any textures turned on. Textures will break up the application of the sampled pattern. 3) Brush Head - make sure you're using the default solid round brush.
I also recommend a hardness of 100 or close to it, because blending edges that don't quite match will look smudged otherwise.
Then zoom way in. You'll notice most of the pattern is made up of these flower petals. If you match the brush size to one of these petals and sample that you might get a cleaner result while cloning. I also recommend turning off "aligned mode" this will snap the sample point back to where you first set it after you finish a brush stroke. This will force you to re-sample areas often, but you're more or less just dabbing a clone over the letters keeping the strokes as small as possible. Just one letter at a time, matching up the lines with the pattern as much as possible and sticking to resampling as the background changes in density and color.
It'll be tedious but potentially worth it. Just match the sample overlay as closely with surrounding edges and that should help. You can see I've removed the top line here, and it was so boring I stopped.
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