DVD labels, how it may effect viewing?

[videography]

Hi.

I was curious, does labels effect DVD viewing? I want to say the images on blockbuster/holllywood style DVD's are burned on, not a stick on label. Does anyone know about the effects labels have on DVD when viewing? Do you use after market labels? At what burning speeds do you burn your DVD's?

[GeorgeW]

There's opposing views on the use of Sticky labels on your DVD discs.

Those who avoid sticky labels point out that things get hot during playback. This could cause the sticky glue to dry differently in different areas -- causing tension in certain parts of the dvd as some parts of the sticky label stick better than other parts. Some folks say they had playback issues, and if they removed the sticky label, the same disc would play fine.

Others continue to use sticky labels without any noticeable issues.

Perhaps it comes down to the quality of the sticky labels (adhesive), and the quality of the discs (too many variables to list -- including the dvd player, and how the disc was authored).

I personally avoid sticky labels because of the problems I have heard (2nd hand).

Here's a cut/paste of a post I made a while back:

Some items that can increase your chances of successful dvd playback
-total bitrate (video plus all audio tracks) under 7500kbps
-for lower overall bitrates, go with Dolby Digital audio (or mpeg audio for PAL discs -- mpeg audio is not fully compatible with NTSC DVD Players)
-don't fill up entire 4.37gb disc -- keep it around 4gb
-no sticky labels
-burn slower (instead of 8x or above, try 4x and below)
-use quality discs (try different brands)
-turn off virus scan and don't use computer during burn process
-check for burner firmware updates
-check for software burning patches

[TubaDad]

I have to give my opion here. I use sticky labels on all of my final projects. I have not had a problem to this day, including DVDs that have been played numerously, and those that have been kept in storage and played a couple of years later.

The only time I have heard of a problem with sticky labels are related to those people putting a mailing label on a disc, thus throwing off the balance of the disc. I didn't think people would do this, until I encountered it first hand. As long as you stick with full size labels and use a decent mounting system to make sure they get mounted correctly, you should be fine. I do have to admit that I have been looking at getting printable discs and an Epson printer to print directly on the disc, but I have messed up enough labels that I am not certain that I want to do that yet either. Also, I have not found full coverage printable discs. I have to admit that I have not started looking very hard yet, but I like the labels I use that go all the way to the hole in the middle and give me plenty of printing surface. I always hated that big empty spot in the middle.

Just my 2 cents.

[cmdralpha]

Gn Broadcasting has used Epson printer to cd/dvd disk same they came out. Outstanding FAST prints. Get to customers hands NOW. Print lest than 60 seconds.
Was ammazed at speed and ease of use. I highly recommend for fast high quality cd/dvd printing to take another look at Epson's cd/dvd printer products.
I am very sure you WILL be Totally amazed at the quality and speed.

When we burn a commercial, a DVD is made and sent to customer or burnt at creation spot.
Nothing is more powerful than to get fast instant product delivery.


So totally offline fron this discusion, Have the New Studio 9 and it is till burning fro over six hours, it is now at 57 % of auto Video Editing and 71% of detailed progress rendering. using DC-toDVD wizard first run.
Uaing the old studio 6, was done burning and printing the dvd in lest than one hour. Somehting is very wrong here and being new to the studio 9 version, I may have done something incorrectly. HOW long does it take to burn a DVD in Studio 9 version?

Amd Dual core
Dual SLI graphics cards
Windows 64 bit O/S
2 gig ram
1 terabit drives

latesdt drivers and updates installed, totally stumped here.
New system totall power and can't burn "FASTER" on studio 9 ?
best regards
Denis--

[TubaDad]

Denis,

I have seen increased rendering times with the 8 and 9. I thought I remembered quicker burns in earlier versions (memory fading through the years). What I do now is once I have cut, titled and trimmed the clip to where I want it, I create an MPEG2 file. Then when I put the project together for burning the DVD, it processes the DVD much quicker. I usually turn out a 60-75 minute DVD in 45 minutes. But all of the processing time to turn the AVI into the MPEG2 files was done upfront. I probably spend around the same amount of time on the project, but it sure feels quicker doing it in pieces rather than watching the progress bar move slowly across the screen.

Just my 2 cents, although like you said it is in the wrong forum.

To get back on topic, my concern is that I will burn a good DVD and then the printing will mess up on the disc. Then what? I end up putting a sticker on it anyway.

[THoff]

Also, I have not found full coverage printable discs.

Retail stores rarely have them, but they are easy to find online. I buy all my media from Shop4Tech -- what you want are disks that are listed as having no stacking ring. Shop4Tech even has dual-layer inkjet printable DVDs.

[stevemoore]

I go to Meritline and order Ritek printable disks. The only brand I have found on the shelf is Memorex, and I found them to be junk. I've tried slow burn, smaller files, etc.....and only one of my burners will recognize them and only one of my DVD players will play them. So I have 98 Memorex printable DVDs that I will probably put on Ebay:-( The Ritek DVD-Rs have been super. Both my burners like them at 8x and I've tried them in over a dozen players with no issues.

[jday]

I used stick on labels for years on both CDs and DVDs without any problems, but read too many posts concerning problems that they can cause, so about a year ago I bought an Epson R200 printer just for the purpose of printing CDs/DVDs ($79 after rebate). The result is truly much more professional than stick-on labels.

Although I've been using the R200 for a year, I still have many discs with stuck-on labels and just last week I had my first real problem. I was playing one of those DVDs in the DVD drive of my computer and the picture froze. When I ejected the disc, the label was very hot and have of it was missing. I don't even want to think where all the little pieces are inside the drive. That's the first time I've had that happen, but once is enough to convince me that all the stories are true and I'm glad I started printing my discs. An interesting point is that we moved from Florida to El Paso, TX last month and the dryness of the desert might have effected the glue on the label (just a thought).

One more thought, although I hadn't had any labels come off before, I have had discs (with stick-on labels) suddenly become unreadable in spots after a year or two. This COULD also be a result of the labels.