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No Pan and Zoom Icon

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I am using Corel VideoStudio X10. I drag the video clip to the timeline. The instructions tell me that there should be an icon on the menu for Pan and Zoom. The icon is not there. What am I doing wrong?
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I don't have X10 on this computer, but Pan & Zoom has never been on the menu along the top of screen. Instead it is in the FX menu down the right hand side of the preview screen. See attached image where I have it in FX > Popular (the two red arrows) and showing where the green arrow is pointing.
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Found it. Thanks Ken. You may close this ticket.
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I could not find the answer to this elsewhere, and since this is still open, I thought I would ask here.

I have a video that I using Pan and Zoom to move back and forth from left to right. Sometimes, my anchor lands at or near the exact point of a previous key frame. Now I want to move that anchor. I cannot seem to grab the anchor that I want to move. It grabs a different anchor from a different key frame. I cannot micro adjust the anchor. I see no x, y coordinates that I can use to move the anchor.

Also, is there any way to force the pan to use a straight line between key frames. It seems to default to a curved line in some circumstances. I want it to be a straight line.

Or, am I just doing this all wrong by adding a key frame between the last one and the end, which causes the problem in the first place.
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Long standing issue, a little annoying that the wrong cross is selected, I think it may be the upper cross that takes preference?
Try using the anchor points, the 9 squares lower left
Pick one away from the other crosshairs.
You should then be able to select to reposition that cross hair

As for a curve, that is managing your keyframes to be in the correct position, difficult to say without seeing your Pan and Zoom effect
To copy a keyframe from one to another use Ctrl+ C and Ctrl + V or right click a keyframe for copy / paste options

Have you considered using Customise Motion to animate the frames.
Right click your clip for Motion – Customise Motion, very useful tool.
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Thank you Trevor.

I know not if links are allowed here, but the best way is to have someone look at it. Some of the stuff that Videostudio Pro X is doing just makes no sense at all. Please fetch the zip of the original video and the .VSP file from this link.

https://anypcr-my.sharepoint.com/:u:/g/ ... g?e=VeNmjH

I followed your instructions, and used one of the nine anchor points to position the crosshair. I had done this earlier, but another problem was occurring, so I was reluctant to continue to use those nine points. My other problem persists. So I continue to use the nine points.

Here's the other problem. Note the key frame at 36:28. From here, the software pans to the next key frame on the left, 38:09. Note the location of this keyframe. After staying there until 41:00, we go back to the right, ending at 42:17. It stays there until 46:22. Now is when the problem occurs. The keyframe at 48:11 is next. But the pan does not go there. It goes to where 38:09 was, and then instantaneously moves to the new anchor at 48:11. It should go smoothly from 46:22 to 48:11. After that, it works fine.

I still need the curves to be straight lines. This is the most obvious between 1:07:11 and 1:14:07. The anchor moves far too high in the pan. Her legs are cut off and there is far to much darkness above. I need it to pan straight across. I fear that I will need to add another keyframe in the middle. Bummer.
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I had a look at your project this morning but did not see the problem, although a little complex to understand. A little busy during the day but will have another go.

I think I understand what is happening but not why. I would think deleting the offending key frames, then add again.

You have also used Mercalli stabilisation, not sure if using P& Z as well has any adverse effect.
I would apply Mercalli, then render to a new video file, then add P&Z.

For my tests I have removed Mercalli and Rotate, Customise Motion may be a better option for Rotate. I need to check that.

Straight lines, try applying Grid Lines

I mentioned Customise Motion, I wonder if that will do the P&Z ??
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Keyframe 20 -- 1:14:07 is set higher than keyframe 19 -- 1:07:11, 20 is also zoomed in more, 197 to 216, that is causing the feet to be lost at the bottom of the frame.
Using Grid lines allows us to set both keyframes at the same height, almost, then pan from left to right is a straight line.

It is a pity that the Pan & Zoom does not have position adjustment X – Y coordinates, instead we have to drag the cursor, makes it difficult for fine adjustments
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Thanks

I have resolved the straight line problem by adding more keyframes. Seems a bit ridiculous, but so be it. You would think there would be an option of some sort.

It seems I have a lot of study to do on Customize Motion. I could not understand how it could be used as a better option for Rotate.

I tried deleting keyframes and adding again. No help. I made a new .vsp file with the pan much more obvious, and the "bug" can be seen. Unfortunately, I cannot attach a .vsp file.

I just now saw your reply at 10:23 AM here in Colorado, USA. Let me have breakfast and do a few other things and I will send more info.

I just looked. (No breakfast yet.) I had to move keyframe 20 below keyframe 19. I do not remember which I did, copied the one above to create the one below or vice versa. Trust me, without the additional frame, it still curved up then down between the two frames even when they were at the same level AND the same size. I do not like the way that there is no option. It curves at it sees fit.

Not pity. It is just piss poor programming. You would think they could have fixed by now. Is there a way to zoom in on it to make micro adjustments?

Yes, this is a complicated video with lots of movement. But it is the one I am using to learn how to P&Z. It has been good exercise. Thanks for your help.
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Forgot to ask. Are you a birder? It looks like it from the picture.
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I fixed it but it was easier than what you described. For what ever reason that key point location moved. All I did was grab the "+" path marker at the key point and drag-drop onto the proper "+" marker on the left side.

I have the vsp but it is in VS2018 - not sure it would work for you.

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Also, as Trevor posted, I too think Custom Motion would be a better solution.
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Yes a birder, when we go out walking we always carry the bins although not a twitcher, that is I would not go chasing around the country to see a rare bird blown in from the US.

Like gewb, I was also able to set the two keyframes to a straight line
Pan and Zoom is not ideal having to drag the keyframes around, much better if we could use the arrow keys to nudge the keyframe position.

Attaching VSP, not allowed by the forum, but we can fool it, simply rename the VSP to use .txt, we download and rename back to .vsp
or zip the vsp.

Ill give Customise motion a go
As a thought you may be better to use the scissors to cut the video into sections, then applying P & Z to each clip may be easier to handle.

gewb, you should be able to save 2018 vsp to open with X10 ( file Save As - Save as Type)
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"gewb, you should be able to save 2018 vsp to open with X10 ( file Save As - Save as Type)" - ah, yes, forgot about that. If the OP wants it I'll zip it or change the extension.
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Needs a bit more work but try this one
lata motion - Copy.VSP.txt
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