Are you ready for 14 Oct. 2025?

[asik1]

Microsoft will continue to support at least one Windows 10 Semi-Annual Channel until October 14, 2025.

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/lifecy ... me-and-pro

[Ken Berry]

As a lawyer, I can't say I understand at all what they are saying. To start with they seem to say that all versions (since 2015) are supported until 2025. But then, with their detailed list, it seems that is not the case. My current version, for instance, is 21H1 Pro, and that appears to be no longer supported from the end of next year. But other versions appear to run out even earlier...

I suspect we really need more clarification from MS...

[asik1]

Ken, it's not a real issue as David can tell you with his 7.
What MS consider EOL or Retirement Date shouldn't affect average Joe as long as the hardware is working.
I'm still with 1909 as my system isn't ON, long enough for the time it takes to get any of the H's

[Davidk]

The way MS supports windows changed with windows 10.
Previously, the policy was for 10 year support from the date of version release (actually, the end of the 1st quarter after that date. Which is why with win7 released in Oct 2009, the EOL date was Jan 2020).

Windows 10 was supposed to be the last OS version release: with updates as needed. To minimise the support cost, the variations resulting from the many items that you could take or leave with previous versions are now automatic. A standard operating environment (SOE) makes support a lot easier and faster, and in the case of win10, the SOE is the worldwide base. For example, the program that calculates the value of 'stan currency in $US could be rejected in win7 - now you get it, use it or not. And with windows 10 the update support life is now 18 months after the update release. Thus, eol for win10 21h1 is end of 2022.
What that means is that the periodic updates aka patch tuesdays for the specific version (21h1) stop after 18 months. That doesn't mean the OS stops working, just that MS won't issue any further patches/fixes or revisions to it. If you choose keep running it and not update to a later version - the software will still work, you just accept the risk of possible future problems. And for a home user that doesn't normally have paid MS support - what else is new?? There is even an argument that you are better off - after so long with patches fixes etc, it is inherently more reliable than any first release program. For example, I have a 2014-build Hp laptop running win7, all the latest version release and patches up to Jan 2020. By the time I elected to upgrade my desktop, (the pain and frustration I experienced with that over 6 months esp with CVS have been exposed elsewhere so I won't recite it again) that laptop was simply too old, with unsupported drivers etc to make conversion to win 10 a realistic option. It still works fine and I keep it scanned with the monthly malware releases (those still come like clockwork), fully backed up. And it has 4 versions of VS installed that still work, if I need to back-check something.

For the future, windows 10 won't be the last version. There is already commentary in the trade press that 21h1 is basically a 'fix it' release, and 21h2 will really be the initial look at windows 11. Supposedly if you are in the development channel, this has already reached your system.

[Ken Berry]

And we are waiting to see what MS has to say about future releases this coming Thursday 24 June. Talk has been that 21H2 may be released around October, and Win 11, or whatever they want to call it if Win 10 is indeed that last version, may come late in the first quarter of next year. I'm not sure, though, how much we are likely to get in 21H2, though it might be somewhat more robust than the existing 20H1/H2 and 21H1...

[excalibur1814]

Note: One MS engineer stated that Win 10 would be the last main release. One. Just one. Microsoft, in their infinite silly mind, didn't correct the statement. The company itself has never (apparently) stated that Win10 would be the last.

"Are you ready for 14 Oct. 2025?"

No, as Windows 11 isn't available via official channels to test, let alone roll out to any computer.

[tletter]

Are you ready for 14 Oct. 2025?

Will this be worst than Y2K?

tletter
https://www.youtube.com/user/tletter

[Davidk]

I doubt it. Y2K was real, as most IT people know. The efforts of all those people remediate it was successful, as the generally 'we were screwed' commentary since from the uninformed certifies. But it wasn't perfect. I personally saw what happened when something got thru the cracks in the time immediately after NY2000.

[asik1]

Are you ready for 14 Oct. 2025?

Will this be worst than Y2K?

tletter
https://www.youtube.com/user/tletter

Y2K... I was commissioned back then to do a short video for a chemical factory about their preparations regarding the catastrophe on the horizon and environmental issues. I shot it on BetaSX and edit with DPS's "Video Action'.

[Davidk]

While we wait for MS to pontificate, here's what someone else thinks about it . . .
https://www.theregister.com/2021/06/21/ ... 11_column/

[tletter]

Y2K... I was commissioned back then to do a short video

Undoubtedly Y2K in 4K

tletter
https://www.youtube.com/user/tletter

[RobertOZ]

Windows 11 is now available to download from Microsoft

[Ken Berry]

Well well! So MS has surprised us... I'm looking at what needs to be done to download and install Win 11 on one of my computers so that I can at least try it out -- and test its compatibility with current Corel products. But from the look of what is required, it is not so simple.

EDIT: Looking more closely at the announcement, it seems it won't be released publicly until Northern Autumn/Fall or Southern Spring i.e. around September/October. However, the first insider builds will apparently be released next week i.e. from 27 June.

[RobertOZ]

According to Microsoft PC Health, this laptop cannot run Win 11, stating that the Laptop doesn't meet the system requirements to run Win 11.
Yet the laptop specifications considerably exceeds the system requirements for Win 11 in all components.
See how you go Ken, are your systems compatible, or are Microsoft misleading us into believing that we need to invest in new computers, not going to happen

[Ken Berry]

The only thing the MS checking app has found is that I need to activate One Drive. I deliberately disabled it on my main computer, though it is active on other computers in my network. So I may activate it when Win 11 becomes available just to load that, then disable it again. I still suspect we may get 21H2 before we get Win 11...