capturing and rendering problems in UV8

msladyvette · Post by **msladyvette** » Wed Sep 07, 2005 2:21 am

I have used Ulead V6, V7 and presently use V8. For some reason I can no longer capture analog video with my ati card in UV8, it stops after 4 mintues and tells me I don't have enough disk space (but I do). After contacting tech support and trying their suggestions without any help I learned that I could capture in Microsoft Movie Maker and edit in UV8. Now my problem is that I can not render what I captured in Movie Maker and edited in UV8 to burn it to dvd. I had about 40 mintues ready to render and burn after 12-1/2 hours of rendering it was only at 81 percent. If anyone could help I would really appreciate it. I have used Ulead and made lots of neat dvd's from home movies and can't begin to figure out what has happened. Thanks

Trevor Andrew · Post by **Trevor Andrew** » Wed Sep 07, 2005 10:23 am

Hi
Can you capture using VS 7?
When did you first have problems?
Have you applied any update patches to VS 8?
What are your system specs

VS 7 only needed 128 MB of RAM (256 MB or above for editing)
VS 8 ---256MB of RAM (512MB or above for editing)

Check your system requirements against the recommended

Trevor

msladyvette · Post by **msladyvette** » Wed Sep 07, 2005 11:34 am

I have not tried to capture using V7 but will give that a try today.
I discovered the problem after setting up a home network but it had been a while since I had captured video so I am not certain when the problem started. I have applied update patches to V8. My systems specs are: 512 MB , 120 GB Hard Drive, Intel Pentium 4 Processor 2.40 GHz with 512K Cache. Do you know why I can't render what I captured in Windows Movie Maker? I can use the captured video from Windows Movie Maker to render and burn dvd's in InterVideo WinDVD Creator without any problems but the program doesn't let me add everything I want to add. Thanks

Trevor Andrew · Post by **Trevor Andrew** » Wed Sep 07, 2005 12:05 pm

Hi

Just a thought

What is your pc’s filing system Ntcs or Fat 32 the latter has a 4Gb limit.

What properties are you capturing to.

If you are capturing to uncompressed Avi

at least 1Gb / min

msladyvette · Post by **msladyvette** » Wed Sep 07, 2005 12:21 pm

Hi
My filing system is Fat 32. I was trying to capture in avi and I also tried the wmv and mpeg , the properties were the same as I had always captured in, I didn't change anything. I was checking out your link. You have some great information on Video there. I was trying to figure out if I have everything set correctly. Although I didn't change any settings from the last time I captured. The tech support had me to do a clean uninstall and reinstall and that gained me about 5 mins of capture time. What a great site you have, some nice pictures and I see you have been to visit the USA. Thanks for your help

Trevor Andrew · Post by **Trevor Andrew** » Wed Sep 07, 2005 1:21 pm

Hi msladyvette

It does sound like you are falling into the 4Gb limit of Fat 32 filing.
May be best if it were possible to upgrade your operating system to ntcs.

If I was capturing from an analogue source I would select Dvd rather than Avi.
If you capture to Avi you will have to recode/render to Dvd before burning.

That’s just a personal choice.

AVI
From capture –format—Avi

Options—change audio to 48Kb stereo

Options—video and audio properties…
Capture tab—Use software compression—
Advanced (make sure this is checked and select a compressor.)
Compression—I would choose Microsoft Video 1

That should capture to avi at 13 Gb / hour

For Dvd

I would use

MPEG Files
24 Bits, 720 x 480, 29.97 fps
Upper Field First
(DVD-NTSC)
Video data rate: 6000 kbps
LPCM Audio, 48.0 KHz, Stereo

About 3.5Gb for one hour.
I would keep these settings for my capture/ editing/ and burning.

Thanks for the web site / images comments.
We visited Las Vegas for a week earlier this year, then Sedona in Arizona, red rock country and all that, very, very nice places you have over there.

All the Best
Trevor

msladyvette · Post by **msladyvette** » Wed Sep 07, 2005 2:47 pm

Hi Treavor
I tried to capture in V7 and got the same message. The exact message is: An error occurred in capturing process this may be due to insufficient disk space. I have tried to capture to my internal hard drive that has plenty of space left, I also have tried to capture to an external hard drive that is 120 GB with plenty of room. At this moment I am trying to capture as you have sugggested in your last reply in dvd with the settings as you have stated. Will let you know how that comes out. Thanks again for your help and time invested. It is greatly appreicated.

msladyvette · Post by **msladyvette** » Wed Sep 07, 2005 9:47 pm

Hi Treavor
I tried to capture in the dvd format with the settings you suggested. I was able to capture 120 min video with the video data rate set at 4000 and was able to capture the whole 120 minute tape. But there is a lot of jerking on the captured video. Any more suggestions? Thanks

GeorgeBW · Post by **GeorgeBW** » Wed Sep 07, 2005 9:52 pm

Hi msladyvette,

Of course conversion to NTFS is only valid if you are running Windows XP.. NTFS is native to Windows NT and 2000, but with XP you have the option of FAT32 as well as NTFS when you originally install. You can easily convert to NTFS, without disturbing your data or settings and this makes sense for lots of other reasons apart from getting away from the 4GB file size limitation.. Consistently quicker, more stable and makes more efficient use of disk space.. But once you have converted, it will not be possible to go back to FAT32. If you are still running Windows 98.. NTFS is not an option anyway.

If your OS is Windows XP, you should find the NTFS Converter Wizard somewhere in your programs menu ... somewhere like Accessories or System Tools. You need to be logged on as Administrator to launch it.

If you can't find the Conversion Wizard... open a window to a Command Prompt (That should be in Accessories) then type this command

convert C: /fs:ntfs

There is a space between convert and C: and another between C: and the forward slash /.. type a return immediately after ntfs..

It will take a while to convert.. and it makes sense to do the same for all permanent hard drives....

Good Luck
George

THoff · Post by **THoff** » Wed Sep 07, 2005 10:10 pm

Stuttering during the capture doesn't necessarily mean that the captured video will also exhibit the problem. I would try playing the video file using an external program such as Windows Media Player.

There are lots of things that can be done to ensure smooth captures (disabling CPU-intensive background tasks, defragmenting the drives etc.), but you don't have to worry about that unless there is in fact a problem.

msladyvette · Post by **msladyvette** » Thu Sep 08, 2005 1:42 am

Hi George,
My os is Windows XP Home. Other than capturing video why else would I want to convert to NFTS? I really don't understand the FAT 32 and NFTS. And I don't understand why I could capture before and now I am having all these problems. I captured some video that was on a 8mm tape, it was not High 8 and it captured with the dvd settings fine. But the High 8 is the one giving me problems now. Thanks for you help. I really do appreciate everyones help. I feel like I am so close to figuring out what is wrong but just seem to be one step away.

Hi THoff,
I did check the captured video on windows media player and that is where the jerking seems to be the worst. As stated before I have captured lots of analog video with Ulead 6, 7 and 8 and made some neat home movie dvd's. So I am really confused as to why all of a sudden I am having all these problems. Thanks for you help.

sjj1805 · Post by **sjj1805** » Thu Sep 08, 2005 3:03 am

"What is NTFS?"
In a nutshell, if you are using Windows XP you ought to be using NTFS unless you have a special reason for not doing so.

Please view this link
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodte ... 8d8e4.mspx

msladyvette · Post by **msladyvette** » Thu Sep 08, 2005 3:12 am

Hi sjj1805,
Thanks for the link on NTFS. I now have a better understanding of NTFS and FAT 32, or least I do know they are file systems. Your time and effort are appreciated.

msladyvette · Post by **msladyvette** » Mon Sep 12, 2005 1:33 pm

I have been able to capture and burn dvd's once agan. I captured in dvd format instead of avi and since my system is FAT 32 I captured half of the two hour tape at a time. Eveything seems to be working fine now. Just wanted to Thank everyone for the help and information. I think I have better understanding of the process now. The help all of you gave me was greatly appreciated.