I have been an annual user and purchaser since the Ulead days; however, I will not purchase VS2019 or VS2020 Ultimate. Too buggy... So I will stick with VS2018 Ultimate until something better comes along... Is that VS2021? What do you think...
Perhaps it is time to consider, life/products without Corel... How do we Ulead to start up again...
Is VS2021 Worth It
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Re: Is VS2021 Worth It
Whilst there are still some issues with VS2021, I no longer have multiple crashes, just now and again, but your profile shows you are still using Win 7, if that is still the case, wait until the next SP is released, hopefully then some of the issues specific to Win 7 will have been addressed
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Re: Is VS2021 Worth It
I upgraded from X9 and VS 2021 crashed over 50 times during the creation of my first video from scratch. With Corel support, I cleared old cache files and made some changes and will update some drivers and hope for better. Personally, I think the developers of the install program need to detect and fix or at least inform on issues that may cause VS to crash. Very disappointed and I've been a VS user since ULead owned it. I like the Text Mask over video feature, it looked awesome.
I agree with the other post, you should be on Windows 10 and have recent if not new hardware/PC.
I think turning off the performance features may have helped, but I'll need to turn those back on and re-test it.
I agree with the other post, you should be on Windows 10 and have recent if not new hardware/PC.
I think turning off the performance features may have helped, but I'll need to turn those back on and re-test it.
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Re: Is VS2021 Worth It
Sorry you are having problemspcgeekus wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 10:11 pm I upgraded from X9 and VS 2021 crashed over 50 times during the creation of my first video from scratch. With Corel support, I cleared old cache files and made some changes and will update some drivers and hope for better. Personally, I think the developers of the install program need to detect and fix or at least inform on issues that may cause VS to crash. Very disappointed and I've been a VS user since ULead owned it. I like the Text Mask over video feature, it looked awesome.
I agree with the other post, you should be on Windows 10 and have recent if not new hardware/PC.
I think turning off the performance features may have helped, but I'll need to turn those back on and re-test it.
After updating your drivers if things have not improved then I think you should start a new topic for your particular issue as “ Is VS2021 Worth It “ does not really describe your issue
We can then discuss and follow your problem.
Personally I have been using the program for a few months in testing the Release Version 2021 and have not had any problems
Granted I have not created a long project but have used existing older projects with no problems, Pushing the boundaries of what the program can do has not caused any crashes, I guess that will be the kiss of death
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Re: Is VS2021 Worth It
Commentary about using the latest - or at least recent - hardware and OS may be the basis of a lower crash count, but it really isn't realistic.
If the hardware runs the latest OS, there is no excuse for crashes - silent or otherwise - using the program, no matter how old the hardware is. I note that some advanced codecs are specified to have grunt hardware, but my personal observation is that even if you don't have the latest grunt, the program still runs - it just takes longer to do certain things. That state of affairs could do with some expansion, for one of the most criticised things in VS - acceleration. User warnings maybe.
I've recently done some research into the hardware acceleration features of the software - and that seems like it's one of those cases where a warning about using older hardware might save Corel quite a lot of brickbats: on a 5 year old PC, rendering with acceleration ON failed; with it OFF, rendering worked fine. The graphics chipset was HD4400, old but still worked for normal use, and the driver was the most recently updated version of it. Recourse to Intel for an answer, and as a result of lab test, Intel advised
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Based on our research and replication of the issue process, we need to inform you that that regrettably, the driver development on the HD Graphics 4400 has slowed down considerably in favor of new products and thus it is unlikely this issue is going to receive further attention from Intel at this point.
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My interpretation of this is that during the lab test Intel found a bug in the part of the graphics driver using the on-chip video cpu (the component that actually does the acceleration processing), but because the chipset is old/superseded Intel would not fix it.
The impact of a vendor unwillingness to update older component drivers has not been so clearly stated in the past, and this would be a case when a warning would be appropriate: such as "your driver software may not support acceleration options"
If the hardware runs the latest OS, there is no excuse for crashes - silent or otherwise - using the program, no matter how old the hardware is. I note that some advanced codecs are specified to have grunt hardware, but my personal observation is that even if you don't have the latest grunt, the program still runs - it just takes longer to do certain things. That state of affairs could do with some expansion, for one of the most criticised things in VS - acceleration. User warnings maybe.
I've recently done some research into the hardware acceleration features of the software - and that seems like it's one of those cases where a warning about using older hardware might save Corel quite a lot of brickbats: on a 5 year old PC, rendering with acceleration ON failed; with it OFF, rendering worked fine. The graphics chipset was HD4400, old but still worked for normal use, and the driver was the most recently updated version of it. Recourse to Intel for an answer, and as a result of lab test, Intel advised
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Based on our research and replication of the issue process, we need to inform you that that regrettably, the driver development on the HD Graphics 4400 has slowed down considerably in favor of new products and thus it is unlikely this issue is going to receive further attention from Intel at this point.
unquote
My interpretation of this is that during the lab test Intel found a bug in the part of the graphics driver using the on-chip video cpu (the component that actually does the acceleration processing), but because the chipset is old/superseded Intel would not fix it.
The impact of a vendor unwillingness to update older component drivers has not been so clearly stated in the past, and this would be a case when a warning would be appropriate: such as "your driver software may not support acceleration options"
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Re: Is VS2021 Worth It
You also need to ask yourself, is it worth upgrading to save just $A15 on the full version, full $A140, upgrade $A125, there is however, a $A23 saving upgrading the Pro version, but why would you want that.
Magix is 22% saving to upgrade and Adobe just under 20% saving
A rip off by all concerned, when in reality, all you are getting is a few additional features, mostly what nobody wants, check out the Adobe forums, on the issues with Elements 2021, 6 months of Beta testing and still not sufficiently stable for many.
Magix is 22% saving to upgrade and Adobe just under 20% saving
A rip off by all concerned, when in reality, all you are getting is a few additional features, mostly what nobody wants, check out the Adobe forums, on the issues with Elements 2021, 6 months of Beta testing and still not sufficiently stable for many.
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Re: Is VS2021 Worth It
I used to have unexplained crashes with vs2019 and 2020, and it got quite annoying. I would have switched over to some other video editing software, but I love the way Video Studio works, and after trying to figure out how to use DaVinci Resolve, just decided to stick with VS.
When I upgraded to VS2021 I was expecting to have the same crashing problem, but I'm surprised to find that it hasn't crashed once, yet. Perhaps I'm lucky, I don't know. I didn't clear VS2020 off my system, either, and though this should have created a problem, it actually hasn't. I shan't look a gift horse in the mouth.
When I upgraded to VS2021 I was expecting to have the same crashing problem, but I'm surprised to find that it hasn't crashed once, yet. Perhaps I'm lucky, I don't know. I didn't clear VS2020 off my system, either, and though this should have created a problem, it actually hasn't. I shan't look a gift horse in the mouth.
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Re: Is VS2021 Worth It
Ancient technical idiom; if it ain't broke, don't fix it
