Pinnacle Studio Ultimate VS VideoStudio Ultimate

[HumblyDriven]

Sorry not sure where to post this. What is the difference between the two? From what I was reading Pinnacle Studio Ultimate has more but I hear people saying it crashes a lot even more than VideoStudio and not worth the extra money. I was thinking about getting it I do a hell of a lot of editing. I'm trying to get my work up to par to look as good if not close to Krispy Media & HALCYON on the editing side links below.

Krispy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edQDtti ... gSZtkMIxPT

HALCYON
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkppo2w ... Hi1DgefjYg

[richiemoe]

My understanding, if you want the best, go with Adobe! I use Corel because I don't edit too much, so I don't want a monthly subscription, or super expensive software. Corel is great for what I use it for!

[tletter]

I was thinking about getting it I do a hell of a lot of editing.

Not sure what makes for "a hell of a lot of editing", but if you'll be editing full time as a paying job, then you're probably well advised to ascend the learning curve associated with an NLE such as DaVinci Resolve.

I'm trying to get my work up to par to look as good if not close to Krispy Media & HALCYON on the editing side

Neither of these video seem particularly demanding on an NLE, rather the key is the excellent source clips that are used to make the project. Hence if you have these type of excellent source clips, and the skill to determine how they should be cut together, then many NLEs can make this style of car video.

tletter
https://www.youtube.com/user/tletter

[HumblyDriven]

Yea I refuse to support Adobe but I have looked into DaVinci Resolve. The thing is learning it not too into the keyboard editing (short cut keys) style. That's why I like VideoStudio so much. Also thank you all for the help and info.

[RobertOZ]

My understanding, if you want the best, go with Adobe! I use Corel because I don't edit too much, so I don't want a monthly subscription, or super expensive software. Corel is great for what I use it for!

You obviously don't read the Adobe forums, assume you are talking about Premiere Elements not Pro ( which is subscription only) Elements 2021 has many faults which, like Corel were not fixed during Beta Testing, (don't blame the Beta Testers) The learning curve for elements is steeper than VS, I have Elements 10,11,12,13,14,15 and 2018 so I do have some knowledgeable experience of both programs. From my point of view, with all its faults, VS is much easier to navigate around and the forum members are always very helpful,

If you are interested, the Humble Bundle currently have Corel Pinnacle Studio 24 Ultimate for $1, absolutely genuine, I have purchased and installed, as I did last year when Pinnacle Studio 23 Ultimate was the offer, so far, with this current offer, more than 30,000 packages have been sold, the offer has 21 days left.

[HumblyDriven]

My understanding, if you want the best, go with Adobe! I use Corel because I don't edit too much, so I don't want a monthly subscription, or super expensive software. Corel is great for what I use it for!

You obviously don't read the Adobe forums, assume you are talking about Premiere Elements not Pro ( which is subscription only) Elements 2021 has many faults which, like Corel were not fixed during Beta Testing, (don't blame the Beta Testers) The learning curve for elements is steeper than VS, I have Elements 10,11,12,13,14,15 and 2018 so I do have some knowledgeable experience of both programs. From my point of view, with all its faults, VS is much easier to navigate around and the forum members are always very helpful,

If you are interested, the Humble Bundle currently have Corel Pinnacle Studio 24 Ultimate for $1, absolutely genuine, I have purchased and installed, as I did last year when Pinnacle Studio 23 Ultimate was the offer, so far, with this current offer, more than 30,000 packages have been sold, the offer has 21 days left.

So Pinnacle Studio is worth buying? The only thing that put me off is when I was talking to people about it. They were saying it crashes way more than this VideoStudio does. Also the company Corel it self not knowing their own programs when I asked the difference via email.

[tletter]

So Pinnacle Studio is worth buying?

If you're hesitant to spend a couple of bucks to buy the program through Humble Bundle so that you can test it for yourself, then you have your answer.

Also the company Corel it self not knowing their own programs when I asked the difference via email.

Corel markets these NLEs as distinct products that don't even appear on the same website, so it's unlikely that Corel will compare them for you. However, there are many reviews and websites that do compare them, or you can compare them yourself fairly easily.

tletter
https://www.youtube.com/user/tletter

[HumblyDriven]

So Pinnacle Studio is worth buying?

If you're hesitant to spend a couple of bucks to buy the program through Humble Bundle so that you can test it for yourself, then you have your answer.

Also the company Corel it self not knowing their own programs when I asked the difference via email.

Corel markets these NLEs as distinct products that don't even appear on the same website, so it's unlikely that Corel will compare them for you. However, there are many reviews and websites that do compare them, or you can compare them yourself fairly easily.

tletter
https://www.youtube.com/user/tletter

The issue is I don't have money to just shell out. I mean if I did I would have done that and not have made this post. So I thought maybe someone on here would have used both.

[RobertOZ]

There are many members of this forum who do have both products, both have good and bad points.
Download the Trial and check it out for yourself

[tletter]

The issue is I don't have money to just shell out.

As pointed out by RobertOZ, Corel Pinnacle Studio 24 Ultimate was available for about $2! That is virtually freeware!

tletter
https://www.youtube.com/user/tletter

[RobertOZ]

And there is still 6 days left

[Davidk]

Years ago, there was such a lot of speculation that Corel would merge VS and PS, that a Corel executive came out with a statement along the lines of: VS is a fine entry level very easy to use program, PS was a bit more pro and less user friendly; basically addressing 2 different market segments, and they had no intent of merging the 2. A few years on, this still seems to be that case, altho there are features being added to both along the lines of staging down from the expensive professional business apps to these largely home products.
I'm pretty sure that reliability is a major focus of every user and those silent crashes being experienced are hurting reputations.
Da Vinci Resolve is the free version of a paid-for professional product; it's got some good reviews but having tried it, I found it's user interface - compared to VS - intimidating, congested and very difficult to use.

[Candive]

Last year, I was thinking of upgrading to Video Studio 2020 (VS) but also had the desire to try something new. I decided to go with Pinnacle Studio 23 (PS) for four reasons. It had a comprehensive Library system which I was looking for and was lacking in Video Studio. It could create nested projects. It shared some modules with Video Studio reducing the learning curve and PS23 was close to the end of its life cycle which I figured they would have ironed out most of the bugs while at that time VS 2020 was going through some growing pains.

As a long time user of VS, I couldn't quite understand why Corel offered two different editors. But after using Pinnacle, I realised these two are targeted at different market segments. VS is really targeted towards the consumer while PS is targeted towards the prosumer as DavidK has indicated. Video Studio is uncomplicated in structure. Its timeline is simple as well as its library. And that makes it easy for beginners to grasp. But as the user becomes more proficient or the projects more complex, this simple structure of the core system starts to become a limitation. Of course, the VS Ultimate version offers some great additional advance plugins which allows users to grow in knowledge and skill when ready.

On the other hand, Pinnacle offers the next step in editing flexibility. One simple example, Pinnacle tracks can be defined as anything the user wants and are not predefined as Video, Overlay, Titles, Music and Voice (a structure helpful to a beginner, but not so much to an advanced user). I can see VS users migrating to PS but I don't really see Pinnacle users migrating to Video Studio. They would miss its flexibility.

But I can also see the two systems sit side by side on my desktop. For quick projects, slide shows and the fun use of the plethora of templates and Fastflicks I will use Video Studio. For bigger video based projects, I will use Pinnacle. And while both systems share some features/modules I don't think the two will merge into one in the near future. The big selling point of VS is its simplicity and Corel has always kept that in mind. So for the beginner or casual user, I would recommend Video Studio and for the more experienced editor; definitely Pinnacle Studio.

[Radim]

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But I can also see the two systems sit side by side on my desktop. For quick projects, slide shows and the fun use of the plethora of templates and Fastflicks I will use Video Studio. For bigger video based projects, I will use Pinnacle. And while both systems share some features/modules I don't think the two will merge into one in the near future. The big selling point of VS is its simplicity and Corel has always kept that in mind. So for the beginner or casual user, I would recommend Video Studio and for the more experienced editor; definitely Pinnacle Studio.

Latest Pinnacle is v24. How much it evolve againts v23, if anything at all ...when compared with two latest VideoStudio versions? Thanks.

[Candive]

Evolution by its nature is a slow process. Moving from one version to the next you may not notice much in the way of change. A lot of work gets done under the bonnet. But go back a couple of versions and you will see a big difference. VS 2020 has materially changed in terms of functionality as compared to VS X10. Likewise with Pinnacle.

Then there is the question; the evolution of what? More plugins? More templates? More bells and whistles? If we were to take a poll of members of this form, I suspect most would be happy with the current offering of Video Studio. Its current functionality would keep you happily editing for years. But look at the original post. HumblyDriven is concerned with crashes – stability.

Again, if you were to take a poll of members, I believe three words would constantly appear:
“Stability” – reduced crashing
“Performance” – speed in rendering and editing
“Compatibility” – hardware (new generations of CPU’s and GPU’s which is related to performance) as well as compatibility with video formats (ie: 4k, H.265, AV1).

If Corel focus on these three words during their development cycle, in my opinion, they would have a winning formula!