Burn DVD from 8mm film + color Issues

[shattered00]

Hello All,

I am currently using the free trial to test burning a DVD with menus/chapters. I have been digitizing old 8mm film using a projector style digitizer. This was to be a present for my grandpa, and I thought I had more time, however, he is now on his way to the ICU after having been infected with COVID 19. I am trying to get this video done now ASAP just in case.

My problem is as follows. When importing the digitized videos into VideoStudio, the default colors from the videos are dramatically changed from the original digitized videos that are .avi format. I am trying to find a way to have the colors for the videos stay as they were and not change once imported I verified that the digitized color version is true to the original after watching the film on a projector. I have tried to correct the color manually once imported into VideoStudio, but am finding it a bit difficult because when I do it for one video, those settings do not necessarily apply to another video for the same project that I imported. I also have color vision deficiency. Is there a way to keep the colors of the video the same as the original after it is imported into VideoStudio? If not, I will just burn the DVD as is, but I am trying to get them as close to original as possible.

Thank you for any help.

[lata]

My first though is that the Trial version does not support burning discs, things may have changed , but it may be worth you testing just to make sure.

AVI is just a wrapper containing the video details and Codec.
There are many types of AVI, DV.Avi would be the best option
Can you right click a clip on the timeline and choose properties, what are they?

When adding the first video to a new timeline you should get a message to match the project properties to the video properties, did you see that?
You can test this by starting a new project, add an avi video. if you see the message choose details, copy and paste the video properties here.

Post Updated
It is possible that the colour problem is related to the timelines and that rendering the project to Mpeg2 will playback correctly outside video studio, I generally use VLC Media Player
Go to Preferences (F6) – Performance tab and deselect the acceleration options, does that improve the look of your video.

[shattered00]

Thank you sir for the reply. I will check to see if I can burn anything at all first. I plan on purchasing the software if I can get this color thing sorted out, as I have many other DVDs to make outside of the ones I am trying to immediately get done but I don't want to buy it just yet if I can't get the color issue sorted out. I have attached the properties of one of the 8mm videos. All of them are the same as they were all digitized in the same fashion/settings. I have added two images as attachments that demonstrate the vast difference in color in case that helps at all.

I did not get an option that allows me to match the project properties. It may be because I am doing the process wrong. To import videos, I first went to capture then import digital media and did not see any option for that. I then started another project and just drug one of the videos straight to the timeline but didn't see that option either. I did not find the option in any of the settings either.

I turned off the hardware acceleration but the color did not change. I have VLC Media Player but are you saying that I need to convert the .avi to Mpeg2 and then use VideoStudio to burn to a DVD with the chapters/menus?

Thank you again for your help with this.

Edit: The original video was digitized in 1920X1080 at 20FPS in .mp4. I then cleaned up the footage and combined different videos which led to the .avi format in case that helps any.

[lata]

I have updated the title of this topic

Working in reverse………
First burning a DVD does need to use Mpeg2 type video files, I assume you are burning DVD and not Bluray.
The Mpegs are either created within the burner stage by a process called “Convert Title”.
The videos are converted to Mpeg2 and saved to a temporary folder within the Documents folder structure, these being used to burn the disc.
Or we can create those Mpeg2 files before using the Burner module, the Convert Title would not be required effectively making the burning process a little faster.
Have a look at this web page that describes a workflow in burning DVD + details regarding Bluray, ignore those.
http://lata.me.uk/corel/all.htm

The Mpeg2 video files are quite specific using settings compatible with the DVD industry standards
For Pal 720 x 576 x 8000kbps x 25fps
For Ntsc 720 x 480 X 8000 x 29.97fps (30fps), I assume you will be using NTSC
The above can be 16:9 or 4:3 aspect ratio.

Ok
The frame rate is quite specific, as your original video ( digitised) use 20fps some changes have to be made, video studio will do that by adding duplicate frames, this will cause some issue with playback.

Digitizing to MP4 is not the option I would have chosen, then converting to AVI is a pointless exercise as we are aiming for Mpeg2

So back to digitizing the 8mm, I am unsure of this process, is the footage converted to video then imported to Video Studio
Or is the device connected to the pc, Video Studio used via the Capture tab to convert the footage.
Either way the video type and frame rate is important and should be set to 29.97fps (30fps)
The format, if DV.AVI is available then that is probably the best option otherwise is Mpeg2 available.

Colour shift, it is probable that capturing and converting to avi is the main cause of the colour issue.

Are you able to digitize the 8mm using 29.97fps (30fps)

[shattered00]

Thank you for the reply and detailed information. I used a device purchased from Amazon to digitize the video (not sure I can list the name here) and it did not allow me to select the file type to be converted to (automatically does .mp4). It also did not give me the option of the framerate or resolution to be selected. Both are set at 1920x1080 at 20fps. I then used a software before I found VideoStudio to edit the video and converted it to .avi as that was the first format option and I wasn't sure what I was doing. The colors are fine for both the .mp4 and .avi files but then get altered with VideoStudio. I will take the original digitized video and see if i can convert it to 30fps, but re-digitizing everything is not feasible within the likely timeframe that I have as there are over 16gb of 8mm film and it took me about a month to get it all done the first time around. I will update if converting the digitized video to to 29.97fps and mpeg2 alleviates any of the issues. Thank you again.

[lata]

For NTSC burning a disc has to use 720 x 480 x 29.97fps (30fps) Mpeg2 video
The problem with converting the 20fps to a video 29.97fps (30fps) is that the frames will be duplicated as 10 frames per second will be added to the video. Unless some program can rip the frames and reconstruct using the same frames, but that will change the playback speed.
As a test, You should try rendering the videos to mpeg2, check the colour issue, play using VLC Media Player
Then use the Mpeg 2 to burn a ISO file which you can play using VLC Media Player to check quality.

By the way how long is a 8mm video and does it contain audio?

[shattered00]

Sorry for the late response. I will follow your instructions as soon as I get back to my computer and report back. The average length of each 8mm clip is about 5 minutes and varies depending on how many feet the reel was to begin with. These films have no audio.

[ehbowen]

For what it's worth, I also work with 8mm and 16mm movie film. I use a film scanner which captures a separate image of each frame and outputs either at 720p or 1080p (native resolution is 964p, so it's either downscale or else a modest upscale). While it can export in a compressed format such as .mov or else uncompressed as .avi, in general I get the best results exporting each film as an image sequence of uncompressed .tif files...but yes, that takes a gol-darn heap of hard disk space (I use hot-swap bays and an 8 TB RAID array for the capture itself).

Once I have the sequence of images, I can work with them for color correction, etc., in VirtualDub and then set the appropriate frame rate. For Regular 8mm (silent) it's 16 fps, Super 8mm (silent) is 18 fps, and the fairly rare Super 8mm sound film (magnetic sound on film...which I can't handle [yet!]) is the normal 24 fps of 16mm and 35mm sound film. Since a foot of Super 8 film contains 72 frames, and the standard camera reel length is 50 feet, it means that a sound film clip runs 2:30 for a standard reel while silent film runs 3:20 for the same reel. Of course, many if not most film users manually spliced their reels together into longer reels, usually 400 feet, for storage.

After I have the basic processing done (I use Neat Video in VirtualDub for image noise reduction), I then do the final editing in VideoStudio. That's where the Auto Music feature shines; it makes it simple to generate a music track timed perfectly for the film clip. If I had one wish list item there, though, it would be the ability to add additional tracks to the Auto Music library...especially Christmas music!

[shattered00]

I converted the .avi (original digitized file) to mpeg2 and then put it into VideoStudio and the color IS CORRECT in VideoStudio!!!!! I am going to burn a test copy next, but I was so excited that I wanted to thank you, Trevor, for your help. Merry Xmas and Happy New Year!!!!!!!!

[lata]

Shattered00, good to hear that the conversion to mpeg2 corrected the colour issue, hopefully the burn to disc will be just as good.
I mentioned in an earlier post to create an Iso, we can play the Iso using VLC Media Player and if the quality is acceptable then burn the Iso to disc.
At least that avoids creating those coasters, although they could be useful at this time of year, Cheers and a Merry Xmas and Happy New Year to you and your family.

[lata]

ehbowen
Thanks for your input here, I have never used 8mm, my first camcorder being a MiniDV.
Your reply does cover a lot of detail that helps in understanding how to work with 8mm.
I was concerned regarding the frame rate of 20 fps used by shattered00 and the consequence of converting / burning a disc at 30fps as Video Studio will simply add duplicate frames with the consequence of stuttering / jerky playback.

I was going to suggest ripping the captured video to images one for each frame, hence my question regarding the length of 8mm
There is a piece of software “Free Video to Jpeg Converter” that will rip the frames to jpeg, then its just a matter of reconstructing the video, I guess 24 fps would be the nearest option.
Video Studio can also do that, rendering the video to UIS (Ulead Image Sequence) providing we can set the project frame rate correctly.

Thanks again and Seasons Greetings