Fill tool is reading other layers as being on the fill layer
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Re: Fill tool is reading other layers as being on the fill layer
Thanks, had not found that "Layers -> View" before - useful!
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Re: Fill tool is reading other layers as being on the fill layer
I get the same results with text.
I did notice that your circle has been converted to a raster layer and that appears to be the cause of the issue. My object is on a vector layer.
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Re: Fill tool is reading other layers as being on the fill layer
Needless to say all of our solutions require PSP to be working properly. XD If you think the crash broke something, feel free to attempt a factory reset of PSP. It has fixed several oddities in PSP functioning before, though it's not a guaranteed way to do things.
When it comes to filling in a blank layer you have more than one way to tackle that problem. Kathy_9's None match mode which apparently has some issue working with vectors but in general works very well, it's also great for filling in layers that have tonal data (gradients, actual images, etc.) as it won't try to match a selected pixel, it'll just fill in the layer/selection without worrying about what's in its way.
When "Use all layers" is deselected it'll only try to match what is on the current layer and ignore all others. So when both Match Mode is None and "Use all layers" is unchecked there is absolutely nothing to stop the fill tool from filling in the entire layer. Vector or raster. I always leave this check box unchecked because I never have a need to take other layers into consideration when using the fill tool. Though i can see how it would be a useful feature to employ once in a while.
When it comes to filling in a blank layer you have more than one way to tackle that problem. Kathy_9's None match mode which apparently has some issue working with vectors but in general works very well, it's also great for filling in layers that have tonal data (gradients, actual images, etc.) as it won't try to match a selected pixel, it'll just fill in the layer/selection without worrying about what's in its way.
When "Use all layers" is deselected it'll only try to match what is on the current layer and ignore all others. So when both Match Mode is None and "Use all layers" is unchecked there is absolutely nothing to stop the fill tool from filling in the entire layer. Vector or raster. I always leave this check box unchecked because I never have a need to take other layers into consideration when using the fill tool. Though i can see how it would be a useful feature to employ once in a while.
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Re: Fill tool is reading other layers as being on the fill layer
I'm not sure how you reach that conclusion. My text was a vector and the fill tool fills around it. I tried again with a vector shape and using your settings (none/use all layers), it fills around the shape (contrary to what's happening for you).
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Re: Fill tool is reading other layers as being on the fill layer
Hi gingerbread,
I suggested (and Levifiction too) you do a reset. I have read carefully all your messages but you don't say you have made a reset. A reboot, yes, but not the reset.
Perhaps you have forgotten that step.
In case, do the following:
Close PSP.
Maintain the shift key down and click on the PSP icon on your Desktop.
Maintain down until PSP asks if you want to do the reset. Accept.
This will clear a possible corrupted cache and tools.
I suggested (and Levifiction too) you do a reset. I have read carefully all your messages but you don't say you have made a reset. A reboot, yes, but not the reset.
Perhaps you have forgotten that step.
In case, do the following:
Close PSP.
Maintain the shift key down and click on the PSP icon on your Desktop.
Maintain down until PSP asks if you want to do the reset. Accept.
This will clear a possible corrupted cache and tools.
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Re: Fill tool is reading other layers as being on the fill layer
Others have suggested you do a reset and I think that should be your next step.gingerbread wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 2:48 am I'm not sure how you reach that conclusion. My text was a vector and the fill tool fills around it. I tried again with a vector shape and using your settings (none/use all layers), it fills around the shape (contrary to what's happening for you).
Here are the instructions in case you need them. They reference X6 but work on most all versions.
https://support.corel.com/hc/en-us/arti ... figuration
You asked how I reached my conclusion. I was basing it upon your image where the circular object was on a raster; not vector layer. I've added it below so you can see what I was referring to.
Good luck.
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Re: Fill tool is reading other layers as being on the fill layer
For me it does not matter if the top two layers are both vectors, both rasters or one vector and one raster.
It does not matter if the match mode is none or RGB.
What does matter is that I
1. Have the bottom transparent raster layer active
2. Have the Use All Layers unticked.
Vector + Raster Match mode None and unticked Use All Layers I can duplicate the problem only if I Tick Use all layers
It does not matter if the match mode is none or RGB.
What does matter is that I
1. Have the bottom transparent raster layer active
2. Have the Use All Layers unticked.
Vector + Raster Match mode None and unticked Use All Layers I can duplicate the problem only if I Tick Use all layers
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Re: Fill tool is reading other layers as being on the fill layer
Well Hartpaul,
you have put your finger on something interesting!
When I did my tests, I started with an image whose background layer was white and I created the vector layers above it. Filling it with a color does not produce the observed defect, whether 'All layers' is selected or not.
But if I do as you do, i.e. start with a transparent background, I can reproduce the difference in behavior.
Is it a bug?
PS: same behavior with PSP 2021.
you have put your finger on something interesting!
When I did my tests, I started with an image whose background layer was white and I created the vector layers above it. Filling it with a color does not produce the observed defect, whether 'All layers' is selected or not.
But if I do as you do, i.e. start with a transparent background, I can reproduce the difference in behavior.
Is it a bug?
PS: same behavior with PSP 2021.
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Re: Fill tool is reading other layers as being on the fill layer
Or is this am 'intended feature' of using a ticked Use All Layers.
In effect it making a layer similar to a mask but with transparent holes that can be dragged onto a different image to create a keyhole effect. And I used a transparent bottom layer as that was the description made by gingerbread - "I want to fill the bottom, empty raster layer with a solid color" ie. transparent, and also shown by her posts where the result shows a transparent circle on that bottom layer.
In effect it making a layer similar to a mask but with transparent holes that can be dragged onto a different image to create a keyhole effect. And I used a transparent bottom layer as that was the description made by gingerbread - "I want to fill the bottom, empty raster layer with a solid color" ie. transparent, and also shown by her posts where the result shows a transparent circle on that bottom layer.
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Re: Fill tool is reading other layers as being on the fill layer
Okay but clearly my text is a vector and is causing the bottom layer not to fill properly. I imagine PSP treats all vectors the same way, whether they're shapes or text. (FWIW it makes no difference whether shapes and text are raster or vector when I do the fill.)
Just to add to the confusion... From what other users are writing here, it seems like my PSP is acting the same as theirs, while yours is the one that acts differently: yours fills completely when Use All Layers is checked, according to your screenshots (you get the difference depending on what Mode you select); ours only fills properly when Use All Layers is unchecked (and changing the Mode makes no difference).
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Re: Fill tool is reading other layers as being on the fill layer
I've reset PSP and nothing's changed - but (and I'm sorry to bring up an unrelated thing): after getting my workspace tools etc back to how I want them, the file I'm working on is "maximized" on a tab, when I want the windows to float on the workspace. How do I fix this? I can't find where under Preferences to stop this happening either by default or for this work session. Where on the tab is the undock button?
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Re: Fill tool is reading other layers as being on the fill layer
Under the Windows menu, deselect Tabbed Documents
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Re: Fill tool is reading other layers as being on the fill layer
For me PSP behaves like hartpaul explained. However it sometimes does glitch as described in this thread. In those cases I do what I mentioned in my previous post.
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Layers Combining and Can't Flood Fill Properly
Randomly a setting was changed or an error is occuring when I open a file and try to flood fill a new layer with paint. If, for example, I flood fill a new raster layer with a solid color and I have a different vector layer with text above it, the raster layer underneath will flood fill around the vector objects in the raster layer, as if it's already combined layers. If I hide the vector layer, I can see that the flood fill has gone around the edges of the vector layer. Is this caused by a setting that I accidentally changed? I tried shutting down the program and running updates, but that didn't work. Any advice appreciated. Thanks!
