Fill tool is reading other layers as being on the fill layer

[gingerbread]

I just had a crash of PSP2020 where I couldn't save my file - as in, my entire computer crashed shortly after I discovered I couldn't save, or save as, or save copy as (just said "error when saving"). I mention this in case it's the reason something weird is now happening since I rebooted:

I have a multi-layer document, including raster shapes and vector text. I want to fill the bottom, empty raster layer with a solid color. But when I flood-fill, it "sees" the things on the layers above as if they were on the bottom layer somehow, and fills around those shapes and text. When I turn off all of the other layers, it works okay.

Have I accidentally changed a setting somewhere?

[Jean-Luc]

Have I accidentally changed a setting somewhere?

Before to fill, select the desired layer (to be filled) in the Layers Palette.

Note: Your profile says you are with PSP 2016. That version doesn't exist. Is it a typo? Are you with PSP 2018?

[LeviFiction]

On the tool options palette, there is supposed to be a checkbox labeled "use all layers" deselect that.

[Jean-Luc]

On the tool options palette, there is supposed to be a checkbox labeled "use all layers" deselect that.

Excuse me, but 'all layers' checked or unchecked, if the user clicks on the above layer (selected in the Layers Palette), that layer will be filled.

[Kathy_9]

Try setting your match mode to None and see if that solves the issue.

[LeviFiction]

On the tool options palette, there is supposed to be a checkbox labeled "use all layers" deselect that.

Excuse me, but 'all layers' checked or unchecked, if the user clicks on the above layer (selected in the Layers Palette), that layer will be filled.

Agreed, but they don't say which layer they are clicking on, only that turning off the other layers makes it work. Suggesting they are clicking on the bottom layer. So I took a shot

[Jean-Luc]

turning off the other layers makes it work.

I don't know how it is possible. I tried on a test image with a few layers. Turning the layers off doesn't permit to fill the bottom layer if another layer is selected in the Layers Palette.

I agree we must receive more information from gingerbread.

[gingerbread]

I have the bottom layer selected and that's the layer I'm trying to fill - it's currently empty, no selections are selected. When I fill it with the paint pot, it fills "around" other layers as if those layers were on the bottom layer as well, including weird filling around vector text.

I've been using PSP since before it even had layers and while I don't know all the advanced features, I've never seen this happen before. Toggling "Use all layers", or changing the Match mode & tolerance doesn't fix it.

However... since rebooting it's now working okay and I can't replicate the problem (which as I said happened after a crash - before the crash everything was moving slowly although my file wasn't that complicated).

[Jean-Luc]

since rebooting it's now working okay and I can't replicate the problem

Hello,
If you had explained it so clearly the first time, we would have understood that it was a PSP corruption. In this case, doing a reset would have corrected the problem immediately if the rebooting had not corrected anything.

[gingerbread]

Hello,
If you had explained it so clearly the first time, we would have understood that it was a PSP corruption. In this case, doing a reset would have corrected the problem immediately if the rebooting had not corrected anything.

I clearly said my computer crashed. When one's computer crashes, one has to reboot.

[Kathy_9]

Just for future reference, Match Mode on the Flood Fill tool does have an impact. When the match mode is set to RGB I was able to replicate your issue; however when it's set to None there is no issue. In both scenarios I had use all layers checked.

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[Jean-Luc]

Match Mode on the Flood Fill tool does have an impact.

Good catch, Kathy!

[Kathy_9]

Thanks. A little something I learned the hard way once upon a time.

[gingerbread]

Just for future reference, Match Mode on the Flood Fill tool does have an impact. When the match mode is set to RGB I was able to replicate your issue; however when it's set to None there is no issue. In both scenarios I had use all layers checked.

Unfortunately, switching between RGB and none match mode has no effect - I tried with a simple image and (to my surprise, actually), replicated the problem. I must have some other mode switched on that's affecting the way the fill tool works. (I tried both 0 and 200 tolerance for each - it never fills properly.)

"Use all layers" *does* fix the problem (i.e. when it's switched off) but I notice in your screendumps you seem to have it switched *on* and it works okay with "none" match mode (whereas it doesn't work okay for me).

What happens when you add a text vector layer?

[migf1]

In my experience, PSP randomly glitches that way every now and then, across all versions I've used in the past 2-3 decades. Try hiding all other layers except the one you want to fill, do the fill, then unhide the other layers. If they are too many, you may want to use the Layers->View menu commands.