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Is the new VideoStudio update GOOD?... Well....

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Ahhh, Corel VideoStudio; It feels like, with each version, "work-arounds" are just becoming part of my muscle memory. So when a new release lands, I just expect the previous issues to still be there. I mean, I don't even attempt to drop clips from the main timeline down to an overlay track anymore, in case it throws it back to the start of the project and throws everything out of whack.

BUT a new VideoStudio update is here with us again, and I actually hoped that this one was going to be solid. 2020 has so far, been much more stable than 2019, and each update has brought improvements. But the latest one brings some unacceptable issues;

- audio clips cut on the timeline, no longer fully match up after the rendered process. If you cut an audio clip off at say 10 seconds. The rendered version will give you an extra, say, .1 seconds of that clip. Meaning you get lots of badly clipped audio tracks, and cut off parts of the next sentence bursting in.
- when playing back a clip on the timeline (not the project as a whole). What you hear/see, doesn't reflect properly where the cursor is. So if you cut, you're cutting in the wrong place.
- Sometimes, items will just completely vanish from the library. You'll be using them one second, the next they're gone.
- Often you can't move an item placed on the timeline. Until you play the project a little bit, and it becomes unstuck.
- Still can't cut all tracks at a point in the project with ripple editing enabled (have to turn it off, cut, and then turn it back on).

I mean, it does feel like things are coming together a bit better at last. But that audio rendering issue, in particular, means a lot of re-rendering, and tweaking, to account for the glitches.

I've always found posting these problems here is much better than going to Corel support directly. Mainly as the moral support feels better than just receiving an empty acknowledgement email back.

Anyone else experiencing these, or any other issues?
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NostalgiaNerd wrote:But that audio rendering issue, in particular, means a lot of re-rendering, and tweaking, to account for the glitches.
The list of fixes is available on this forum at https://forum.corel.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=67337 . There is no mention of audio fixes. However, that's not surprising as handling audio is not one of VS's strengths and hasn't been addressed for years.

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You're not wrong.

I've now got another issue where everything is fine, but VideoStudio will just create "Burps" of sound right at the end of sound clips.

They're not even parts of a continued audio creeping in either. They're just blips of sound conjured from seemingly nowhere.

You can hear where it does it slightly on this video...https://youtu.be/B_Fi6g0p_Eo?t=254

The audio fades out, but then it spikes it back up, just before it cuts out. Really irritating.
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NostalgiaNerd wrote: Mon Sep 14, 2020 11:27 am The audio fades out, but then it spikes it back up, just before it cuts out. Really irritating.
Again this is a well known audio feature of VS. Simply search this forum for "blips", e.g. https://forum.corel.com/viewtopic.php?f ... udio+blips

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tletter wrote: Mon Sep 14, 2020 1:07 pm
NostalgiaNerd wrote: Mon Sep 14, 2020 11:27 am The audio fades out, but then it spikes it back up, just before it cuts out. Really irritating.
Again this is a well known audio feature of VS. Simply search this forum for "blips", e.g. https://forum.corel.com/viewtopic.php?f ... udio+blips

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Urgh, the only reason I keep coming back to VideoStudio is because I can use it so easily, but honestly, now I'm thinking about it, the amount of extra time correcting all these issues takes, might just as well be poured into learning a new editing tool.
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NostalgiaNerd wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 1:19 pm
tletter wrote: Mon Sep 14, 2020 1:07 pm
NostalgiaNerd wrote: Mon Sep 14, 2020 11:27 am The audio fades out, but then it spikes it back up, just before it cuts out. Really irritating.
Again this is a well known audio feature of VS. Simply search this forum for "blips", e.g. https://forum.corel.com/viewtopic.php?f ... udio+blips

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Urgh, the only reason I keep coming back to VideoStudio is because I can use it so easily, but honestly, now I'm thinking about it, the amount of extra time correcting all these issues takes, might just as well be poured into learning a new editing tool.
Had lots of issues with sound in my version (2019 Ultimate) occasional pops now and again ruining all the hard work. The work around was to convert to mp3 using aTube Catcher or Audacity, works like a dream but yeh a step that shouldn't be needed.
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SL0PPY wrote:The work around was to convert to mp3 using aTube Catcher or Audacity
The use of Audacity is explained in https://forum.corel.com/viewtopic.php?f ... t=audacity. However, if you render only the audio of a VSP then the audio blips are already incorporated into rendered audio file and Audacity will not automatically remove them. Pls explain your steps to extract the audio from your VSP for ingestion by Audacity, and how you then use Audacity without manual editing, to remove the audio blips.

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tletter wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 6:18 pm
SL0PPY wrote:The work around was to convert to mp3 using aTube Catcher or Audacity
The use of Audacity is explained in https://forum.corel.com/viewtopic.php?f ... t=audacity. However, if you render only the audio of a VSP then the audio blips are already incorporated into rendered audio file and Audacity will not automatically remove them. Pls explain your steps to extract the audio from your VSP for ingestion by Audacity, and how you then use Audacity without manual editing, to remove the audio blips.

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On the rare occasion I had problems with sound, its always been an imported source say from an mp4 or other format. I tend to convert it in a program first before I import it into VSP, once imported into VSP the pops are gone when I play back unlike the original. There's no trick really but here's what I do. Import the original file into audacity, now export the same file but save the quality to standard if its not already set, save the file, done. Import file in VSP and try it. I'm no expert but perhaps the the newly converted audio file is a better suited to VSP example a different kbps medium quality vs high quality? Once my blips are gone the rendered version remains clear. I see it as a bit like bathing the files before they go out hahaaa
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Has anyone who updated to VS2020U talk about backwards compatibility with previous project files from VS2019? I lost so many templates upgrading last time and I'm so hesitant to install an update that is going to trash all that work again.
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