PRODAD transitions totally slow up any chance of editing !!!

[garjobo123]

Smart Proxy - ON

Your standard clips/project - appears ok.*** ..smoothly..enough...

Playing about with Prodad transitions adding here and there....even 1 of them!! and impossible! IMPOSSIBLE to scan/view/play on my edited timeline. Impossible. SO ANNOYING ! Can you not do anything with this VS !! Useless.

[tletter]

Can you not do anything with this VS !! Useless.

What version of VS? You don't say either in your posting or on your profile.

tletter
https://www.youtube.com/user/tletter

[asik1]

Can you not do anything with this VS !! Useless.

What version of VS? You don't say either in your posting or on your profile.

tletter
https://www.youtube.com/user/tletter

Or even what trans he used...

[garjobo123]

Seriously.

And now that I have informed you of this most vital information does that actually make one bit of a difference prey tell? of course not. In fact the only reason you both replied was to pass comment on my lack of information and I hold not a hope in hell's chance of ever getting VS to run smoothly!

VS VERSION 2018

ALL THE BOODLY TRANS!

( and yes, they all work fine once added to the timeline and played in 'clip' mode. But when you play in project mode or try to play the actual piece of video - with the intention of either editing it or simply seeing how the effect suits - VS stutters, judders and is impossible to work with. The sound out of sync with the continual video track. )

Go on - tell me it's because of Smart Proxy - go on!!

Thanks for stopping by.

[tletter]

Seriously.
...
And now that I have informed you of this most vital information does that actually make one bit of a difference prey tell? of course not. In fact the only reason you both replied was to pass comment on my lack of information and I hold not a hope in hell's chance of ever getting VS to run smoothly!
...
ALL THE BOODLY TRANS!
Go on - tell me it's because of Smart Proxy - go on!!
...
Thanks for stopping by.

Clearly you're frustrated by the help that is available on this forum despite that fact that it's an all volunteer effort. The sarcasm in and tone of your posting doesn't encourage volunteerism. You'd probably be happier if you open tickets with Corel Support to get your issues addressed.

tletter
https://www.youtube.com/user/tletter

[garjobo123]

..lets wait and see if 'they' can offer a solution now that i have given them the information they so desire.

I'm a betting man - a wager tletter?

I do feel like getting a 'ticket' from Corel , owe me considerable finances due to the amount of hours...days..months WASTED not due to my inability, not due to my PC but due to a programme that just doesnt play ball.

..I'll get my coat..

[Ken Berry]

Why do you want to use the proDAD transitions if they are causing such a problem. There are tons of other transitions in VS. Yes, the proDAD ones should work, but if they don't, choose another type.

Personally, the only transition I use is the crossfade. If you look at professional movies, that is about all you will get, and even crossfades are relatively rare, with straight cuts being often more common.

[lata]

Hi
garjobo123, calm down, take a deep breath and count to 10
I have just spent time testing 2020 for the AB/ Prodad transitions, which I see two options Adorage and Vitascene, as below.

My videos are MTS 1920 x 1080 25fps
Using CVS 2020 I have tried using Adorage and Vitascene with no problems
I have not tried customising the effects just played the clips on the timelines as ok, yes Smart Proxies are being used.

I then tried 4K samples, playing the timeline without transitions is ok, for me its navigating that is pretty slow, resizing the timelines or switching views Storyboard to Timeline view is painfully slow, but once set playback is ok.
I added Adorage, that was slow and jerky when played, Vitascene played ok.
Transitions set to 3 seconds

So I have tested 2020 as being sort of reasonable but slightly different results depending on the type of video file being used, 1920 x 1080 I had no real issues.
My evening meal delayed my reply and now I see you are using 2018

I’ll test 2018 tomorrow and if its worse then maybe you should purchase the latest version, I think that is the first time I have said that in the last 2 years.

We are here to help not argue with you, help us to help you...............

[garjobo123]

Ken,

if a programme 'advertises' said feature then it should actually work on said programme or at the very least come with a healthy and safety warning ( for my blood pressure! ) stateing using these effects will totally slow up and stutter your video.

Yes, in total agreement, i also only tend to use effects to a minimum - however - as my recent threads show..i am trying to create a very short 'jittery intro' - the Prodad effects to some degree answer this by using dissolves, flashes and indeed spiral flashes placed within 15 seconds of clips - very very quick edits..the results are decent. BUT, placing actual content after this makes it impossible to edit or play.

i have spent considerable time - 2 days in fact - doing this..the result 30 seconds of footage which fits the bill - only now to find I can not actually play the content after the 30seconds / to edit it - as its become unworkable.

( and yes, i tried literally 1 prodad clips and still the programme slows to a halt regardless of the magic of Smartproxy.)

( further more - Smartproxy may work with actual clips being more manageable but even if you start adding a title or a bleach bypass ( pers. fav effect ) it seems to just halt the clip to a degree which is painful. )

[garjobo123]

Lata, thank you for testing although no intention of vs2020..i really am looking at premirepro and paying the few hundred pounds i think long term this is the winner...however...even with that it is clearly i am going to have to stump up for a better graphics card than my geforce970 - at the very least 1080.

Disappointed to read from what you say - even with your set up the results are 'mixed'.

I clearly am asking too much from this programme - 30sec with probably 20 effects...but played together..it works..it's just thats the intro! the content ( as short as it is...a collection of interviews lasting 2minutes ) becomes unworkable - not able to edit/cut with much ado. The intro is important...and over a series of 7 interviews will have the same intro...even though content lasting only 2min.

However, thanks once again. I have spent too long on here and with VS so need a break.

[garjobo123]

IT'S RACKFOCUS!!!!! It's not the Prodad...IT'S RACKFOCUS!!! as soon as that is added everything becomes jerky as hell!!!

[Ken Berry]

I assume you are talking about the Rack Focus filter in NewBlue Essentials II?

[garjobo123]

YES, why is this known to be a problem?

I have used this many times before - before i reinstalled VS2018 ( which, just mention in passing, Ive noticed when i click on icons like rack focus and others appear slower...slower to use. Compared with the VS2018 i had before i had to reinstall.

Rackfocus always worked without much issue before ( not 4k footage and not smartyproxy...i wonder if rackfocus is having problems because of smartproxy? ) heyho...just another day and another issue involving good ole' VS.

[asik1]

It's very nice of you to complain on the wrong product. We hope that with your premiere PRO complains you'll be accurate.

[lata]

Hi
Another day, so far I know you are having problems with Video Studio and after testing 2020, maybe I should have waited to do the tests I now realise you are using CVS2018 and that for some reason you had to re-install the program
For me the prodad transitions worked, one better than the other, a little annoying with the Adorage but I would have managed
Now RackFocus is causing problems, without Ken mentioning NBii I would not have known where that was located
Never used that before, seems quite subtle effects but did work ok with no delay in playback.
It appears to change the focus creating a blur which does not seem difficult to do, such a simple filter should not impact on the timelines playback. Certainly if that happened to me then I would be concerned.
You have mentioned Smart Proxy a few times, do you wish me to test with and without SP, although if I need to use SP with the raw files I would not deselect when adding filters.
And that’s about all I know about your project other than it may be 2 minutes long

Knowing the video type and length would help, and if they were recorded using a Phone may use a variable frame rate which we know video editors do not like as the timeline is at a constant rate, for UK would use Pal 25 or 50 fps.--I assume you are in the UK
I would ask that you create a Smart Package of your project zip and upload to a sharing site, however if Rack Focus is impacting on Video Studio then I do not think a smart package will help.

Maybe we need to go back a step to why you felt the need to re-install the program.
I also note that your pc details are not showing in your profile, should show to the right of your post, can you update those details, someone on the forums my understand those, it may be that you simply need a new pc

Have a lovely day,