Can't move window unless it has focus (worked in PSP2019)

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Can't move window unless it has focus (worked in PSP2019)

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I use Window>Cascade, rather than tabbed windows, so that I can see multiple images in PSP at once. I often have 10 or more windows open. I'm a programmer and often lay out windows in a column or a grid to compare screenshots.

Previously, in PSP 2019, I could grab any window and move it straight away.

Now in PSP 2020, only the window with focus can be moved in this way. If I try to drag another window, it just sits there. So if I want to move 10 windows, I have to click on each one first, release, and then I'm allowed to move it. It's time-consuming and frustrating. Might not sound like a bit deal, but when you move windows a lot it gets annoying really quickly.

This is contrary to most Windows programs, and common sense. Was this an unintended change? Can it be fixed please?

Examples:
Create two images, might look like this:
Image
Select the window on the left (click where the mouse appears above).

Now click and drag on the title of the right (green) window:
Image
The window gets selected, but it does NOT move. See above, I clicked at the start of the red arrow and moved in the direction of the arrow, but the window didn't move

Can others confirm this behaviour at their end?
Thanks.

Support experience
I tried reporting this issue to support, but it was by far the worst support experience I've ever had. This is a minor behavioural issue in PSP 2020. I presume it's the same for everyone. Yet support just kept sending stock-standard replies such as "Reinstall", "Clear your cache", "Install Update 1" etc. None of which are relevant here. I asked whether they could confirm that they could replicate the issue at their end, but even after a direct question their replies NEVER acknowledged a single word I'd said. Not once. You could completely replace my side of the "conversation" with anything and it would read the same. I got about half a dozen replies without any relevant content. I asked to speak to someone else but this too was not acknowledged. Then they offered to access my computer remotely. There's no way I was letting them do that when they couldn't even acknowledge the issue I'd reported in any way. Presumably they would just reinstall, clear the cache, etc and otherwise cause unnecessary havoc. I gave up on support in the end. I will only report issues here now.

It was request number 5704835 if anyone at Corel wants to review it.
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Re: Can't move window unless it has focus (worked in PSP2019

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RobertWebb wrote:
Can others confirm this behaviour at their end?
I confirm. It is broken.
Behaviour is correct in PSP 2019 and PSP X9.
I will report it to Corel.
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Re: Can't move window unless it has focus (worked in PSP2019

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Jean-Luc wrote: I will report it to Corel.
Thanks. Can I ask how does one report a bug to Corel though?

I tried going through their support and it was a nightmare of stupidity. The person responding showed no indication at any point that they're read a single word I'd said. I gave up in the end.

Maybe you can check if my other post is a bug and report that too? :)
viewtopic.php?f=56&t=66481

Thanks,
Rob.
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Re: Can't move window unless it has focus (worked in PSP2019

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RobertWebb wrote: Can I ask how does one report a bug to Corel though?
If you are a registered user, you may report a bug through your Corel Account.

If you want to participate to the program improvement, sign up as beta tester:
viewtopic.php?f=56&t=64362
Read all messages. The LeviFiction messages are very informative.
As a beta tester, you will be able to send bugs you find directly to the Corel people involved in the program. However, you will not be allowed to publicly communicate anything that happens during beta testing.
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Re: Can't move window unless it has focus (worked in PSP2019

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Jean-Luc wrote: Wed Jan 22, 2020 8:55 pm I confirm. It is broken.
Behaviour is correct in PSP 2019 and PSP X9.
I will report it to Corel.
Can anyone confirm if this bug was fixed in PSP 2021 or 2022?

I often have multiple windows open so it's a major pain for me.

PSP 2021 is currently available in a Humble Bundle, so wondering if it was fixed. Or is there a link to the issue somewhere?

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Re: Can't move window unless it has focus (worked in PSP2019

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RobertWebb wrote: Fri Oct 15, 2021 3:12 am Can anyone confirm if this bug was fixed in PSP 2021 or 2022?
It is still broken.
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