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Can you modify custom profiles?

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Hi,

On the Share section there are those different profiles for controlling your output. There are default profiles, which you could see when you select them the pen is greyed:
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But if you create your own a custom profile from the "+" sign, then the pen becomes enabled:
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But my challenge is, it is not editing the selected profile, but create totally a new profile. As when I press "pen" icon, it gives me an empty profile:
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Do you have the same or is this again something special on my workstation :shock:
At least I could not found the general "Access denied" messages while trying to do this.

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Hi
To create a new preset or movie template we have to start with at least some details which can then be edited to our liking
Well nearly as some attributes within the template do have their limitations.
Once you choose a type lets say Mpeg4, then choose a profile as near to the one we would like to create.
Now the Plus “+” will give us a customisable template allowing us to set any attributes within their limitations.
It works and is the easiest way to go

Another option is from the Settings Menu – Movie Profile Manager will again allow us to choose a format type.
Then we have New and Add options
The New is similar to the Share + option where we modify the preset, you have the General and Compression tabs, you are best setting the Compression details first.
The Add option will allow us to browse for a suitable video file, the template will use the video files settings.

Once created the template / preset will be available from the Share profile list, usually at the top,

And yes I do have the same as you
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Hi lata,

Yes, creating the profiles might goes like you described, but as the text on the pen says:
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I'm expecting to modify the one I have selected.

But thank you for sharing the behavior you see. Now I could ask from support if they could fix this and made VideoStudio at least a bit better again :D
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Hi
I don’t understand why you feel the process is wrong nor why would having a completely blank canvas make things better.

I simply select a profile type, there are lots to choose from and if there is not one suitable I can modify it.
When I wish to create another Custom Profile I simply hit the Plus “+” and it will copy the profile allowing me to edit custom profile

I start with giving the profile a meaningful name, usually starting with Lata, you could use something like “Pepi 720x576 25p, 8Mbps”
My name Lata then separates / identifies the Presets from the Custom profiles.
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The profiles which are supplied with and visible in Videostudio are "Standard Profiles" and can not be modified - or else you would not have the 'standard profiles' available whenever you need to use them at some time in the future.

What you can do is add a "Custom Profile" which you can make by modifying a 'Standard Profile' - you can then call it whatever you like and it becomes a modifyable Custom profile - hence the pen tool tip option "edit custom profile" - it does not say 'edit standard profile'

so you cannot modify a 'standard profile' - I don't even understand why you would want to - when you can take a standard one and modify it and make a custom profile with a slightly different name - thus keeping your standard profiles intact

So you can have as many custom profiles as you want all slightly different -(with different names) - but at the same time still keeping the standard profiles

why do you even want to modify a standard profile - when you can keep it in case you need it while creating the custom profiles you currently need

So to answer your question as you asked - YES you can modify Custom profiles - but - NO you cannot modify a standard profile - only by turning it into a custom profile
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BJC wrote:The profiles which are supplied with and visible in Videostudio are "Standard Profiles" and can not be modified - or else you would not have the 'standard profiles' available whenever you need to use them at some time in the future
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That is not actually true. You could have both a standard profiles (not editable) and custom profiles (editable) on the same list. Or that is the way how VideoStudio show it for us. Check my original post and see the differences between yellow rectangle and red rectangle. Those profiles are on the same list and VS see them differently.
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Pepi wrote: You could have both a standard profiles (not editable) and custom profiles (editable) on the same list. Or that is the way how VideoStudio show it for us. Check my original post and see the differences between yellow rectangle and red rectangle. Those profiles are on the same list and VS see them differently.


Yes that is true - and I see no problem with that - you will know which ones are your custom ones because you will have given them names which you recognise as yours

There is no problem - it is the way Videostudio has worked since custom profiles were introduced - it is just something you now know and need to understand
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BJC wrote: Yes that is true - and I see no problem with that - you will know which ones are your custom ones because you will have given them names which you recognise as yours

There is no problem - it is the way Videostudio has worked since custom profiles were introduced - it is just something you now know and need to understand
Not sure do I understand you correctly, but this is a custom profile, as you can see the pen is available:
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I just give a name which look the same with standard profiles. Perhaps I should have some random name to not confuse people, but I feel the naming standard Corel has made is pretty good and I wish to continue with that.

So question is, how I could modify custom profiles? As by selecting pen I get empty profile.
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Pepi wrote:
BJC wrote: So question is, how I could modify custom profiles? As by selecting pen I get empty profile.
You cannot do that
You will always open an existing profile which is freely editable.

If you wish to create a new profile from an existing custom profile hit the "+" first which will open a profile with a new name, usually a prefix number being added.

As i mentioned earlier to identify my own custom profiles i usually start the name with MY............
example
MY 1920 x 1080, 25p, 15Mbps - 3
Lata 1920 x 1080, 25p, 15Mbps - 4
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BJC, it is possible to "modify custom profiles" within the limits of the codecs installed and I have done so for years. But it can be done only "under" VS's hood. It can easily get VS very unstable in the hand of a typical user so it isn't recommended, hence blocked.
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lata wrote:
Pepi wrote:
BJC wrote: So question is, how I could modify custom profiles? As by selecting pen I get empty profile.
You cannot do that
You will always open an existing profile which is freely editable
But still the pen says: “Edit Custom Profile” as you can see from my earlier post. So I believe it was planned to be possible, but tiny bug in code does not allow that.

Let see if I could get support team to understand this as well.. :)
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Hi
I think we are thinking on cross purposes here.

The program provides default profiles
If we wish to create our own custom profile we first select any profile, then the PLUS symbol will create a custom profile.
Now we can edit this template to our needs.

If we wish to create another profile we first select any profile, preset or custom, hit the PLUS to start a new profile.
The program first modifies the name, we should then edit the name to a more meaningful name, then change the profiles attributes.

We cannot start with an empty profile, we simply edit custom profiles.

I do not see or have a problem in creating my own custom profiles
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lata wrote:Hi
I think we are thinking on cross purposes here.

The program provides default profiles
If we wish to create our own custom profile we first select any profile, then the PLUS symbol will create a custom profile.
Now we can edit this template to our needs.
The Plus sign is for creating a new custom profile.

But if you re-read my first post you see, I’m speaking about the ”pen”. The description of it is ”edit custom profile”. And depends of which profile you select, you should be able to modify it (if it was a custom profile). Or do you see this differently?
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Hi Pepi
I guess I see this differently to you
When I go to Share I can select a video type, I choose MPEG-4 the profile list shows all Preset Profiles, these are provided by the program installation
The Pen icon is not available, greyed out as we cannot edit any Preset Profiles
When I hit the Plus “+” the existing preset profile is converted to a custom profile, first indication is the name that receives a suffix is added to the name usually “1” (MPEG-4 AVC (1920 x 1080, 25p, 15Mbps) – 1)
A panel opens called “New Profile Options”, maybe the wording should be “New Custom Profile Options”, now I can modify the profile, I usually start by giving it a more meaningful name starting with MY, similar to “MY 1920 x 1080, 25p, 8Mbps”
This Custom Profile is now available at the top of the list, and when selected shows the Pen “Edit Custom Profile” being available, I can now change modify this profile.
If I wished to create another profile I have to start by hitting the plus “+” symbol

The attached image shows the list I see with 4 new custom profiles having been created, the pen is available for these 4 profiles.
The rest of the list are the presets provided by the program, the pen option is not available for these profiles.
We can only edit a profile that we have created and those are Custom Profiles.
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Post by Pepi »

Uuf, looks like there is a combination which has caused this issue. As now, after restart workstation I'm unable to get the empty dialog anymore, but it is working excatly like you @lata described.

How shame, like a rookie... :shock:
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