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how to make a photo appear to have been taken from side

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I have a photo which was taken looking straight at the subject (immediately in front) and I want to adjust it to make it look as if it was taken looking partly from the side and cannot work out how to adjust the image.
Does anyone have any ideas.?
Obviously the side which will appear to be furthest from the camera will be shorter than the other side.
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Thanks for your reply and suggestion however I have already seen most of those tutorials which appear to me to CORRECT PERSPECTIVE DISTORTION and I am trying to ADD PERSPECTIVE DISTORTION.
Take for example the following diagram. On the left would be the original image and on the right what I am trying to achieve (the opposite of perspective correction).
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BTW does anyone know why the image of myself in all my posts all of a sudden is out of focus?
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I've been told Perspective Correction can be used for this you just have to correct opposite what you're trying to achieve, though I personally find the Pick tool with perspective warp easier. Or the Perspective Warping Effect found under the Effects -> Geometric menu.
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Thanks, I'll give those a go as I had tried using the perspective correction tool in reverse and found it difficult if not impossible.
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Before PSP 2018, I mainly used PSP 7.04, an old JASC product. In the upper right corner of the screenshot, you can see their take on perspective correction. Personally, I have used the Corel Perspective Correction to fix a lot of my pics. My raw editor Silkypix has horizontal and vertical correction, but that costs money -- a lot of money if you don't get a Panasonic-only version.
Screenshot1.jpg
In any case, if you like what you see, PSP 7.04 is abandonware. It can be gotten here.
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Thanks heaps for that. Yeh I started with an early version of JASC PSP too but now have PSPX8 (I must update my 'signature).

BTW when did the web board change the maximum size of a users avatar? I found mine out of focus and so tried uploading it again and couldn't because the file size was larger than 6KiB (wow that is mighty small) and could only upload a PNG image which is 50X50 pixels which is ridiculously small.
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John -- as far as I am aware, there have been no changes to the size of permissible avatar. It is a maximum size of 6 KB (6144 bytes) and maximum width x height of 80 x 90 pixels.
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Thanks Ken

Well my previous avatar looked like it had an 'out of focus filter' applied to it (like they do on the tv news to a cars registration plate) which I thought very strange as all other peoples avatars I could see were ok. I had not changed it for years.
Not knowing what to do I tried to upload my avatar (which was 100x100 and a jpeg image) and received an error that it had to be 80x90 and no larger than 6KiB. The only way I could create my avatar was to resize the one I used to have down to 60X60 and a png format to 'fit' the filesize restriction (6KiB - mighty small) which now displays much smaller than the one I had.

Any ideas why my avatar overnight looked like an out of focus filter had been applied?
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Ken - HELP

Well I have tried everything I can think of and yet I am unable to create a JPEG image of 80X76 (less than the maximum allowed) and with a compression factor of 50 (any more and the images pixelates badly) yet my image remains at 8.43Kb in size which is larger than what is allowed.

I 'captured' your avatar and find it is 65X80 yet only 2.87Kb. How on earth were you able to create an image so small in filesize?

I find the limitation for an avatar and less than 6kb unachievable and crazy.
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The save size of the image depends on the complexity and file type.
I took my larger image and made a crop in the dimensions of 80 x 90 and dragged that to include what I could.
Then resized to 80 x 90 pixels. I sharpened the image which actually increases the save size in this case as a jpg and was 20 KB.
Then saved it as a Gif and it came down to 8 KB.
Then I took a soften brush and softened areas that were unimportant in the background and anything away from the face that had detail - watch , folds in shirt ( I could have cloned out the watch as that was not really needed, and also smoothed out the shirt totally.
Then I used Image >Decrease Color Depth > x Colors (4/8bit) to various levels and after various trial saves found that 120 colors reduced the save to 5.75 KB .
If you have a small color number graphic with little detail can probably get it even lower .
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You need to remove the ICC profile. That takes up a lot of space in your image.

Use Save As, click the Options button, turn off saving the ICC profile (tends to be more than 1KB large) then set the compression low enough to get under 6KB.

In PSP I can easily get an 80x90 image under 6KB with no ICC profile and a compression level of 8 (default is 20).
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And even more if you do not save EXIF info. Have changed it now.
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Thanks guys

ICC - that is the filesize hogger. I had already saved without EXIF data but once I unselected Embed ICC profile (whatever that is) the size size reduced to around 4Kb even with compression set at 10!

Thanks again
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jparnold wrote:Thanks guys

ICC - that is the filesize hogger. I had already saved without EXIF data but once I unselected Embed ICC profile (whatever that is) the size size reduced to around 4Kb even with compression set at 10!

Thanks again
Wiki link to info on ICC Profile and the information stored in that profile:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ICC_profile
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