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best performance speed for PSP 2020?

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I have started using PSP 2020 for designs of large sized printed items. Usually these are 300dpi at actual size of 8ft x 8ft. So its a huge file. I have a i7 cpu with 32gb of ram, and a Nvidia 1050 card with 6gb ram. Even with this higher spec hardware, my editing is a SLOWWWWWWW process where I often have to wait 5-10 minutes between steps in PSP. My scratch drive is set as well.

Is there a advice on how to speed things up?
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mmreed wrote:I have started using PSP 2020 for designs of large sized printed items. Usually these are 300dpi at actual size of 8ft x 8ft. So its a huge file. I have a i7 cpu with 32gb of ram, and a Nvidia 1050 card with 6gb ram. Even with this higher spec hardware, my editing is a SLOWWWWWWW process where I often have to wait 5-10 minutes between steps in PSP. My scratch drive is set as well.

Is there a advice on how to speed things up?
A really good question. Is there a difference between the speed of editing on an i7, using its iGPU (with graphics card out) vs using the i7, with the graphics card in?
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My experience tells me that PSP is not fit tool to do this.
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For a print of 8'x8' dimensions, is 300dpi necessary ? 100dpi for an 8'x8' print would seem sufficient because of greater viewing distance. 100ppi (on screen) would be a considerably smaller file to work with.
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TimW wrote:For a print of 8'x8' dimensions, is 300dpi necessary ? 100dpi for an 8'x8' print would seem sufficient because of greater viewing distance. 100ppi (on screen) would be a considerably smaller file to work with.
Graphic programs cannot give instructions to a printer to print at either 300DPI or 100DPI, or any other DPI (Dots Per Inch) for that matter. They can only instruct a printer to print an image at X number of PPI (Pixels Per Inch). Dots Per Inch is a function of a printer's technical specs and can only be adjusted using the printer's driver software by deciding whether or not you want draft, normal, high, photo, or custom print setting output. Similarly, printer driver software cannot set the number of Pixels Per Inch and has to receive that information from the image that the graphic program sends to the printer.
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mmreed wrote:I have started using PSP 2020 for designs of large sized printed items. Usually these are 300dpi at actual size of 8ft x 8ft. So its a huge file. I have a i7 cpu with 32gb of ram, and a Nvidia 1050 card with 6gb ram. Even with this higher spec hardware, my editing is a SLOWWWWWWW process where I often have to wait 5-10 minutes between steps in PSP. My scratch drive is set as well.

Is there a advice on how to speed things up?
So far, people have not answered your question directly yet. Instead, we have suggestions to use smaller chunks. But I am still interested in the original question. Just where in PSP is the bottleneck? Does getting a better graphics card help with PSP? Could you speed up your editing by going from a 1050 to a 1080? Would a 1080 with 12GB of VRAM work better than a 1080 with 8GB VRAM? This is not a moot point, since just today Intel has dropped the price of their -F processors. The i7 9900F, for example, fell from $335 to $298 -- a $35 drop.
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I still say working with less pixels will speed up editing. 300ppi times 96inches = 28,800 pixels on a side. 100ppi times 96inches = 9,600 pixels on a side. Total pixels would be a little less than 1/10 that of a 300ppi image. Each example would be for an 8ft x 8ft (96x96 inch) image. Someone please correct me if my math is wrong.
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I agree with TimW that for an 8' x 8' size image there is no need to be using 300ppi resolution settings given the distance at which such a large image would be viewed. Even 100ppi might not be necessary but, as TimW says, at least that would make the image being worked on substantially smaller in pixel size and therefore substantially less of a resource burden.
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That reminds me of an incident I had some 20 years ago with a person who was producing calendars. He asserted that the quality of a 2 1/4 square film camer image was far superior to a 35 mm negative or transparency which is why he continued to use medium format cameras. I then took a 35 mm camera image and printed it out to his calender size and placed it beside his calendar size image from the 2 1/4 camera. At normal calendar viewing images you could not tell the difference, but he took out a magnifying glass and examined the images from about 6 inches and said here look through this and you can definitely see the difference in quality.
He was oblivious to the fact that most people will view a calendar from at least 2 feet away when they are writing something on the calendar and more often much further away,

Also look at some of those images on billboards and buses , they look great from 50 metres away but if you stand 1 foot away you can see how grainy or pixelated the image is.

Sorry to mix the measurement terms so much but that was the way we used terminology here in Australia, metric for some and imperial for others.
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hartpaul wrote:Sorry to mix the measurement terms so much but that was the way we used terminology here in Australia, metric for some and imperial for others.
While OT, the same thing with metric and imperial measures occurs here in Canada. While metric has been taught in schools for quite some years and our young people are quite familiar with it, there is still quite a mix of both in many situations. Meat and produce, for example, is shown on the package label as so much per kg, but advertised as so much per pound with the metric price/kg included but in much smaller font. Most tinned or otherwise packaged products like cake mixes, flour, etc., seem to mostly use metric but recipes for cooking and baking with these items often tend to use imperial measures like cups (ounces) and teaspoons, etc., but newer measuring items like those cups or kitchen scales usually have both metric and imperial markings. We do use metric for highway mileage, however (or is that kilometerage?). And our Canadian football fields are still 100 yards long. :-)
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Could it be the printer driver also? I remember that when I tested pcl and postscript there was a huge difference on printer file size and printing speed.
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