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alexchan

Subtitles not clear

Post by alexchan »

I am having problem with subtitles, my project setting is AVI, 720x680, after I render to a WMV in 320x240 file, the subtitle on the buttom became not clear. But if I make it to 720x680, it is clear. Is there any way I can make the subtitles clearer when I make wmv, 320x240, 700k? Thanks.
phd
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Post by phd »

Use a larger font so when it is shrunk it can be legible.
Also try using bolder body font and make sure it is a sans serif font.
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Post by Devil »

With only 240 vertical lines, you are at a disadvantage. Ideally, your characters should have at least 16 vertical pixels to be really legible (they will be just legible with 8, but the appearance will be awful). 16 lines is 1/15th of your picture height, which is not inconsiderable for a subtitle.
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osaeris

An alternative

Post by osaeris »

Hi,

I may be missing the point entirely but if you are playing the wmv files back in web pages or on a presentation from CD you can use SAMI to syncronise captions with the video. This means it's proper text with scalable fonts running in a different region of the page. We use SMIL to playback video, audio, slideshow and text streams simultaneously with RealPlayer. I have done a stream using asx/wmv/smi in the past it was quite easy to get going.

If you want a bit more detail about SAMI this microsoft site's quite a good start. :

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/defau ... rticle.asp

For Realmedia which I find more controllable, this is the bible:

http://service.real.com/help/library/gu ... dintro.htm

I can send in a quick example for realmedia if wanted because I'm working with it all the time. I would have to fish for the old SAMI stuff.


Hope this helps
osaeris

Also

Post by osaeris »

As a subtitler, Subtitle Workshop 2.5 is free and can save Ulead, RealText and SAMI formats and is easy to use once you get the keystrokes memorised!

http://www.urusoft.net/home.php?lang=1
alexchan

Re: Also

Post by alexchan »

osaeris wrote:As a subtitler, Subtitle Workshop 2.5 is free and can save Ulead, RealText and SAMI formats and is easy to use once you get the keystrokes memorised!

http://www.urusoft.net/home.php?lang=1
Does it support Ulead MediaStudio Pro 7?
osaeris

Support for MSP7

Post by osaeris »

Subtitle Workshop (SW) simply generates subtitle files in various formats which can be imported into various other programs like DVD Workshop or used in SMIL presentations. It won't produce titles within Mediastudio.

The reason I suggested SMIL or SAMI is that the text stream is presented seperately from the video so you can specify any font size, colour etc.

Can I ask how you intend to present the video ? Is it a web page, video tape or the like ?

Steve
alexchan

Re: Support for MSP7

Post by alexchan »

osaeris wrote:Subtitle Workshop (SW) simply generates subtitle files in various formats which can be imported into various other programs like DVD Workshop or used in SMIL presentations. It won't produce titles within Mediastudio.

The reason I suggested SMIL or SAMI is that the text stream is presented seperately from the video so you can specify any font size, colour etc.

Can I ask how you intend to present the video ? Is it a web page, video tape or the like ?

Steve
I am going to make a wmv file and show in the website
osaeris

Web page

Post by osaeris »

Hi there,

Here's an example which might help. Place the first piece of code in your web page:

myfilm.wmv is the name of your film
mytitles.smi is the name of the subtitle file



<object
classid="CLSID:6BF52A52-394A-11d3-B153-00C04F79FAA6"
id="WMP1" width=320 height=240
Style="margin:6; border:0 inset black;">

<param name="URL" value="[b]myfilm.wmv[/b]">
<param name="SAMIFileName" value="[b]mytitles.smi[/b]">
<param name="captioningID" value="notes">
<param name="SAMIStyle" value="Black Print">
<param name="AutoStart" value=true>
<param name="AutoRewind" value=true>
<param name="EnableContextMenu" value=false>
</object>


=========================================

Next is the subtitle file mytitles.smi with some example styling (note that the SYNC start bits are in milliseconds:

<SAMI>

<HEAD>
<Copyright="Your own copyright message">
<Title>The title of the film</Title>

<STYLE TYPE="text/css">
<!--
P {
font-size:12pt;
font-family: Arial;
font-weight: bold;
color: #EEEEEE;
background-color: #222222;
text-align: center;
}

.ENUSCC {
width:320px;
Name: English;
lang: EN-US-CC; }


#Source {

font-size:12pt;
font-family: Arial;
font-weight: bold;
color: #EEEEEE;
background-color: #000000;
text-align: center;
margin-bottom: -12pt;
}
-->
</STYLE>
</HEAD>

<BODY>

<SYNC Start=1000>
<P Class=ENUSCC ID=Source>&nbsp;</P>
<P Class=ENUSCC><table align=center>
Silence...
</table></P>
</SYNC>


<SYNC Start=20000>
<P Class=ENUSCC ID=Source>&nbsp;</P>
<P Class=ENUSCC><table align=center>
...one of the texts in the book is the beginning of a five part score written for a possible school and the....
</table></P>
</SYNC>

<SYNC Start=35000>
<P Class=ENUSCC ID=Source>&nbsp;</P>
<P Class=ENUSCC><table align=center>
...idea of the score comes from music. That is to say that you can have a....
</table></P>
</SYNC>


<SYNC Start=40000>
<P Class=ENUSCC ID=Source>&nbsp;</P>
<P Class=ENUSCC><table align=center>
...score of music and any number of possible performances.
</table></P>
</SYNC>

<SYNC Start=45000>
<P Class=ENUSCC ID=Source>&nbsp;</P>
<P Class=ENUSCC><table align=center>
And that is one of the crucial aspects of this particular notion.
</table></P>
</SYNC>


<SYNC Start=50000>
<P Class=ENUSCC ID=Source>&nbsp;</P>
<P Class=ENUSCC><table align=center>
This is a way of thinking about possibilities and a way of suggesting....
</table></P>
</SYNC>

<SYNC Start=55000>
<P Class=ENUSCC ID=Source>&nbsp;</P>
<P Class=ENUSCC><table align=center>
...possibilities. We talk about spirals and other forms in nature....
</table></P>
</SYNC>

<SYNC Start=60000>
<P Class=ENUSCC ID=Source>&nbsp;</P>
<P Class=ENUSCC><table align=center>
...Testing one minute....
</table></P>
</SYNC>


</BODY>

</SAMI>

============================
Unfotunately, I can't get windows media and SAMI to behave in Firefox that's why I use the stand alone realplayer to do this stuff. If you want a complete RealMedia example I can do that easier.. let me know

Hope this helps a bit

Steve
yzerman123

Use title clips

Post by yzerman123 »

With MedioStudio Pro 7.0, you can easily add permanent subtitles by adding "Title clips" onto another video track. Title clips can be found under the Insert menu.

You can set fonts, background color, positioning, duration of appearance on the screen, etc. It's quite flexible for basic subtitles.

However, you can't toggle the subtitles on and off, like on a DVD. They are permanent.
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