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Re: [Sticky] -- Wish List for PSP 2021

Post by Kamuix »

Ok i thought of a really good idea you know under adjustments - Hue and Saturation - Hue map. I like this tool because you can remove specific colors from the picture or change specific colors to a different color and while that's all and good, what if i wanted to do this with white, grey and black(and perhaps other shades of grey)

I did this picture up in paint after taking a screen shot of the hue map to give people an idea of what it might look like:

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Something like that maybe more shades of grey in between.

What do you guys think? Or Is there already a simple current way to remove or change specific shades of white, grey and black?
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Please forgive me for referencing "Jasc" in this reply, but it's necessary to properly tell you my "wishes."

I've used Paint Shop Pro since the Jasc Software version 3. The versions I've used the most were 3, 5, 6 and 7. I'm still using version 7 because there is quite literally nothing that comes close to comparing with it. When I started working at my present employer about 20 years ago, I pretty much started my department, so I had them purchase Jasc PSP 7. On my shelf right now are Jasc 7, 8 and 9 and Corel XI, X3, X5, X6, X9 and 2018 (which I also currently use with Jasc PSP 7 for some of the functions Jasc PSP 7 doesn't have).

Of all the versions I really loved the layout for version 5 the best. It was the most user friendly. Version 6 pretty much copied that version and added a few new tools, so version 6 was probably my favorite all around. However, version 7 is just a little less user friendly and it has a lot more tools (which is why I've used it all these years).

When Jasc went to version 8 they remodeled everything and honestly messed it all up. When Corel took over they actually improved it a bit, but it's still nothing compared to Jasc version 7.

Specifically the most important thing about that version was its browser. It not only loads faster than any version after it, it also uses a thumbnail file (pspbrwse.jbf) to save the thumbnails for your next visit. Instead of having to wait for all the images to load each time you open a file, it only updates the changes. I save hundreds of camera images in multiple folders each month. I often have to go through a large number of folders when searching for a specific image. Browser load time is a major issue for me. Version 2018 has improved a lot since the previous versions, but having to wait for the browser to load the images every time I load PSP and open a folder cuts into my production time.

There are numerous things I prefer about Jasc PSP 7, but won't bother with a list. Things like how it handles Command History is much nicer than current versions.

So, my two wishes would be a version of PSP that has the power and functions of version 2018 with a layout and browser much like Jasc version 7. My second wish (if the first isn't possible) is a browser that functions like the Jasc PSP 7 browser). I'd even settle for a free standing browser that operates outside PSP and will let you drag and drop images to PSP or designate where to open clicked on images.

I'm losing the battle in my quest to keep my office using Paint Shop Pro. Most people are using the newer versions of the program, but because of the limitations, some have moved over to Adobe software and there's a movement to get everyone using their programs. Unless PSP becomes a viable option, I suspect we'll soon be switching over. My big "wish" is to continue using Paint Shop Pro.
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I was hoping that these would have been added in the 2020 release, but much like the rest of 2020 things did not go as one would have liked. Please add the following features to the 2021 release:

1) If nothing else is added to PSP 2021, please please please add a better "Recent" list than just the 10 that are offered in the "File" menu. I would really like to be able to have a customization list of specific files I work with regularly available such as licensing info, creator, logo's, etc. that are a pain to have to navigate using "File - Open" then browsing directories after they have fallen off the recent list because I have opened 10 images.

2) I would really like to see some form of tracking how many hours/days a persons has worked on an image, including a history of what dates the project was worked on. It would be of a great assistance when it comes to billing for certain projects, as well accounting for what I have put into any given project paid or otherwise. Currently I am having to track hours in another program and it really is painful to have to go back and forth, honestly its just a real chore to do it this way when it could be so much simpler.

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1. My wish for the next version is that if they introduce a new feature in psp is that it works.
2. If they could list the stuff in the sales page they did not fix from previous versions that still will not work.
3. If they could list the stuff in the sales page that worked in previous versions but they no longer work correctly in the new version.

At least if they did that I could make a better decision whether to purchase or not.

I know my request may sound strange but this is what Corel has been doing to us. Can you imagine if you bought a car and they advertised it as self-parking but it would crash every time you used it, and they said will fix it in the next car that you have to buy and then it still did not work, and then if they did get it working that something else that has been working since the first model no longer works. How do they get away with this?????

If the Owner of Corel is not to embarrassed I wish that person would phone me. As a Customer I have the right to tell him that he has to do way better.
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Re: [Sticky] -- Wish List for PSP 2021

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jrmach wrote:1. My wish for the next version is that if they introduce a new feature in psp is that it works.
2. If they could list the stuff in the sales page they did not fix from previous versions that still will not work.
3. If they could list the stuff in the sales page that worked in previous versions but they no longer work correctly in the new version.

At least if they did that I could make a better decision whether to purchase or not.

I know my request may sound strange but this is what Corel has been doing to us. Can you imagine if you bought a car and they advertised it as self-parking but it would crash every time you used it, and they said will fix it in the next car that you have to buy and then it still did not work, and then if they did get it working that something else that has been working since the first model no longer works. How do they get away with this?????

If the Owner of Corel is not to embarrassed I wish that person would phone me. As a Customer I have the right to tell him that he has to do way better.
According to Corel Support, we must wait for a new version to fix the flaws in the current version. And the reason to avoid PS is to get away from the subscription model? Seems that an Adobe subscription would be cheaper than buying a new version of PSP every year.
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First and foremost: HEIF / HEIC support. It is a supreme pain and loss of quality to need to convert images to JPEG before they can be edited.

Second: Please test all dialogs on scaled displays. There are many functions that are not usable on 4k displays set to 300% or on 1080p displays set to 150% with the done/cancel buttons and other controls off of the screen, or in a few cases, unscaled elements that are too small to use. All sliders should be pop-out controls for accessibility.

Wish #1: Return brush size adjustment to mouse wheel. Somewhere around X2, brush size adjustment was taken off of the mouse wheel unless you were hovering over the actual adjustment, removing the ability to preview the brush/tool size. It used to be that you could click the control then roll the wheel to change the brush/tool size (eg. clone, paint, eraser, push, warp, airbrush) over the image to see the effective tool size.

If the rationale is to have consistent behaviour of the mouse wheel to zoom (a noble choice, then have an actual-size preview of the new tool size/shape as the adjustment is made.

Wish #2: This one goes back to around PSP 7 when vector layers were introduced -- export to PSD preserving vector, adjustment and other layer types or at least eps or other vector types other than WMF.
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Post by Techpotato »

This one is missing from all photo editors but is in almost all video editors, so I am adding it as a separate wish:

Chroma key!

Click on a colour and have it make a mask layer (and a saturation adjustment layer, but that can be done manually by copying the mask layer if needed) from that colour with adjustments for hue range, saturation range and luminance range.
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Techpotato wrote:Wish #1: Return brush size adjustment to mouse wheel. Somewhere around X2, brush size adjustment was taken off of the mouse wheel unless you were hovering over the actual adjustment, removing the ability to preview the brush/tool size. It used to be that you could click the control then roll the wheel to change the brush/tool size (eg. clone, paint, eraser, push, warp, airbrush) over the image to see the effective tool size.
This works just fine. It's just that after you start with the adjustment and then move the back on to your image you can't click on the image to make it active. Just hover the mouse over the image and use the wheel to get the size you want for the brush. Then click on the titlebar to make the image active again. Then the wheel reverts back to resizing the image.

This particular thread isn't supposed to be used to tell people how to use the program. It is the responsibility of the user to first start a topic in the forum with their issue and asking if there is a way around it. If people advise that there isn't then you can come here and ask for it as a wish.

EDIT: Also, a quick search of the forum for Mouse Scroll Wheel would likely bring the following info up as the first link that would have been helpful:

https://forum.corel.com/viewtopic.php?f ... ze#p378791
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Hi

1) Shorten the startup time. It takes a long time to start up and start working. Every year it claims to be faster, but it's still slower than PaintshopPro7.I once contacted support saying "Simple Paintshop is better", wondering if it's slow to start because of the many plugins and features it's loading. Later, I was given a simple Paintshop mode, but it didn't affect my startup time.
2)I wish Paintshop would have the "cloud filter" that is included in Photoshop. It's a mystery why it's not included.I found something that could be reproduced in the Photoshop plugin, but it didn't load in either the 32bit or 64bit version. That plugin is a privately produced freeware, as old as 2000.
I think it's an easy development for the Paintshop team's technical skills. In addition, I'd like you to improve the loading compatibility of plugins.
3)I'd like to see the "default" setting included in the New Layer button option. Every time I click on a new layer, I have to choose whether it's a raster or a vector, and most of the time it's a raster.
4)Joining vector objects. I understand that I can't do this because I have CorelDRAW, but I would like to join vector objects in a layer above the image to create a frame in a description drawing or something.
5)I'd like to see a "Show Only Selected Layers" button in the Layer Palette. It would be nice to have "hide all layers", "show all layers", etc.I think it would be nice to have it in the right-click menu.
6)clipping mask.
7)I'd like to be able to use "Capture editing" and "apply editing "in the edit workspace organizer. I feel like I could do it before, but not in 2020. Inconvenience.
8)Layer grouping shortcut.
After selecting multiple layers in the Layers Palette, press Ctrl+G to group them together, and Ctrl+U to de-group them. I'd like to be able to select from the right-click menu.
9)Please make the import/export compatibility of PSD files better.If you save a grouped file as a PSD file, the group will become a combined layer.
10)The overall processing speed should be increased and stability should be improved. If you use more than 20 high-definition layers, even on an SSD and Corei7 environment, it will instantly slow down. It seems that it is necessary to clean up the program source instead of fixing it by gluing it together.
11)After the first launch of Paintshop, it becomes "□" when a 2-byte language is inputted.
This is because the font defaults to Arial and does not complement any languages other than English in that country's language.For Word and Excel, Arial is selected for English, and the default for a two-byte language is the country's language.It's the PSP2020, and it remembers the last font you used, so it's somehow manageable, but it's not very friendly to newcomers to Paintshop, and it's confusing after resetting the settings.
12)I want to set up a mesh warp node by clicking on any part of the screen.
13)I want you to add primary colors to the material palette, like the one in Microsoft Paint, and make it the standard. Primary colors are often used when explaining information such as directions.
14)If you make the borders of letters and figures too thick, they will be evenly thick on the inside, making it difficult to read the text. It would be nice to have the option to make it thicker on the outside or inside only.

I'm sorry that I have written so many requests in poor English. I like PaintshopPro a lot and I use it a lot for work and for pleasure. That's why I want them to survive, and I want them to get better.
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I truly understand your frustration. I think most of us who complain the fiercest about Corel products care the most. I too am a loyal and dedicated Corel user (that complains a lot), the problem is that Corel does not reciprocate by fixing problems with their software that they know about. They deny issues, give us the lousy support runaround and are more concentrated on new yearly versions and profit rather than having a stable completely working program. Their program is sick and getting sicker with each new release, and in an analogy kind of comparison to the long term care facilities (in Canada) they are turning their backs for a buck. That is why my wish is that no new features or versions should be allowed until all features they advertised in previous version are working correctly or give us paid users the new versions free. Why should we have to pay twice for the previous versions features to work under the disguise of a new version with new features? Well that is my personal opinion and rant, thanks for listening.
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The ability to select several images from a folder etc. and open into a set of stacked layers. The ability to then align these layers is a must that is sdaly lacking.
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- FLIF JPEG XL format support
- Better RAW converter (with shadow and highlight recovery, vignetting reduction, more lens corrections with own samples like in Aftershot or LensFun)
- Camera RAW Lab context menu when disabled in manage mode
- Better HSL dialog (like Lr with colours sliders) with three tabs H, S and L
- Better hue map (horizontal with +/- 0 position) perhaps integrated in the HSL dialog
- Bigger preview windows
- More layers blend modes
- Lr template converter
- Better Exif informations like Exiftools...
- RGB to layers and back
- CMYK to layers and back
- Close and open groups of layers in PSPScript
- Map system for geolocalisation
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JeremyS wrote:The ability to select several images from a folder etc. and open into a set of stacked layers.
You can do that with drag-n-drop in Edit mode from the Organizer to the Layers.
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Kathy_9 wrote:Add your requests for what you would like to see included in the next version of PSP.


PSP does not allow us to view the clipped pixels with different colors, like blue or red, in the edit windows. So, very high in my wish list is the option to view the clipped pixels, either because the pixels became totally black or totally white, in different colors in the edit windows. I have being waiting for this feature a very long time.
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There is the ability to view clipped regions on the Levels dialog. It's not the same, I acknowledge that, but just so you are aware. In the levels dialog if you hold CTRL while dragging the sliders it'll show clipped colors.
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