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Need speed above 1000 %

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I am able to speed up video to 1000 %, but I would like to speed up even more. How do I do that ?

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I don't know if VideoStudio can do that, but ProDad's ReSpeedR can.

Perhaps in VideoStudio you can speed it up, render it, reload the rendered file and then speed that up again. Of course successive renders probably will not look as good.
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bjtap wrote:I don't know if VideoStudio can do that, but ProDad's ReSpeedR can.

Perhaps in VideoStudio you can speed it up, render it, reload the rendered file and then speed that up again. Of course successive renders probably will not look as good.

Let us calculate:
1 sec of video is 25 frames
1 min of video is 60*25=1500 frames. This means the 1 minute video will be reduced by 1000% speed up to 6 seconds.

If I correctly unterstood the 1000% speed up is 250 frames/sec, that means every 10th of frames remain in the video.
This is normally available by VS. If you need more you have to repeat the procedure again. Ie render it by this speed to get the 6 second for each minute and you can speed up the rendered video again.(for eg to 3 second will be the 2000% speed up).
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I've been complaining about this for years. The issue with "re-render" is not so much a loss of quality, but the fact that instead of just sliding the slider to a different place, you have to:

- select the clip
- wait several seconds for it to render the preview (even though I don't need a preview)
- go to the start of the clip
- wait several seconds for it to render the preview (even though I don't need a preview)
- select project instead of clip
- wait several seconds for it to render the preview (even though I don't need a preview)
- hit Mark-in
- click on the clip again so it's selected instead of project
- wait several seconds for it to render the preview (even though I don't need a preview)
- go to the end of the clip
- wait several seconds for it to render the preview (even though I don't need a preview)
- select project instead of clip
- wait several seconds for it to render the preview (even though I don't need a preview)
- hit Mark-out
- go to share
- type in a filename to use for the temporary file
- check "create preview range only"
- start rendering and wait for it to finish.
- go back to Edit tab
- manually drag the mark-in back to the start of the video
- wait several seconds for it to render the preview (even though I don't need a preview)
- manually drag the mark-out back to the end of the video
- wait several seconds for it to render the preview (even though I don't need a preview)
- select the old clip that was just rendered from
- wait several seconds for it to render the preview (even though I don't need a preview)
- delete old clip
- wait several seconds for it to render the preview (even though I don't need a preview)
- open windows explorer
- navigate to the file you rendered
- drag & drop new clip into the same spot
- click to open the popup menu
- click Speed/Timelapse
- Select your new setting
- Also don't forget to uncheck the "create preview only" box before your final render
- Also don't forget to go back later and delete the intermediate speed files you created

Edit to add: I know I can use smart proxy to speed up the preview, but it means I can't just edit/render/upload immediately after recording.
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If you have been complaining for years, why are you still using this program, why have you not purchased proDAD ReSpeedr which will more than adequately do what you want, without you aging prematurely and going grey
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You appear to be complaining about the refresh rate of the preview rather than the speed limitations

Go to Preferences and set Clip Display Mode to File Name Only
No more clip preview and response is much improved
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lata wrote:Lift
You appear to be complaining about the refresh rate of the preview rather than the speed limitations

Go to Preferences and set Clip Display Mode to File Name Only
No more clip preview and response is much improved
I'm complaining about both. And I have had the preview set to file name only for a long time, this is not it. I don't mean the thumbnail in the timeline, I mean the frame of the video that it renders on the upper left in the default view. Whenever you move your cursor to any part of the timeline, it insists on rendering out that frame of the video (even though I do not need it) which takes a long time if your source video has a high bitrate and/or you have multiple layers/FX/etc.
RobertOZ wrote:If you have been complaining for years, why are you still using this program,
Because it still does all of the things I need at a much lower price than other software, it just has a poor interface for doing so, which they could actually fix fairly easily.
RobertOZ wrote:why have you not purchased proDAD ReSpeedr which will more than adequately do what you want, without you aging prematurely and going grey
Because it's $100. Why should I have to buy what amounts to extra length on a slider, for three times what I paid for the entire video editing suite?
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Hi
I really do not understand, what version of Video Studio are you using, can you provide a screen shot of the (I mean the frame of the video that it renders on the upper left in the default view)
Lift wrote:I don't mean the thumbnail in the timeline, I mean the frame of the video that it renders on the upper left in the default view. Whenever you move your cursor to any part of the timeline, it insists on rendering out that frame of the video (even though I do not need it) which takes a long time if your source video has a high bitrate and/or you have multiple layers/FX/etc.
Have you applied Mercalli stabilisation to your clip, then changing the speed will require mercalli to scan again, thats the only thing i can think of.
I must be missing something?
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Lift, I don't know the nature of your videos, but if you need 1000% and more very often, than try to grab Magix bundle of VMS16+Respeeder for just $60...
They change bundle every few weeks. (VMS alone can do just 25-400%)
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"VMS" being (Vegas) Movie Studio (Platinum). Apologies asik! :roll:
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Ken Berry wrote:"VMS" being (Vegas) Movie Studio (Platinum). Apologies asik! :roll:
You know me Ken, I don't chew the food I give for the needed.
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lata wrote:Hi
I really do not understand, what version of Video Studio are you using, can you provide a screen shot of the (I mean the frame of the video that it renders on the upper left in the default view)
Lift wrote:I don't mean the thumbnail in the timeline, I mean the frame of the video that it renders on the upper left in the default view. Whenever you move your cursor to any part of the timeline, it insists on rendering out that frame of the video (even though I do not need it) which takes a long time if your source video has a high bitrate and/or you have multiple layers/FX/etc.
Have you applied Mercalli stabilisation to your clip, then changing the speed will require mercalli to scan again, thats the only thing i can think of.
I must be missing something?
I'm using VS ultimate 2019. It has been like this for many versions. It's this preview pane, the one that shows you what the frame of the video will look like, wherever your cursor currently is, and it always re-renders any time you move the cursor/scrubber.
previewpane.jpg
I record in high quality h264, which is very slow to render. (Again I know I can use smartproxy if I am willing to stop using my computer for half an hour while it renders, which is usually not a reasonable option. Especially when "don't render the preview window except when I click a button to do so" could easily be added.)

If anyone cares, here's a video showing the process of editing an episode, most of which is just waiting for that preview pane to render so I can go back to moving rectangles around.
https://youtu.be/DP2joOrTcII
asik1 wrote:Lift, I don't know the nature of your videos, but if you need 1000% and more very often, than try to grab Magix bundle of VMS16+Respeeder for just $60...
They change bundle every few weeks. (VMS alone can do just 25-400%)
LOL, so your solution on the corel user board is to stop using corel's software?

The thing is, Corel is cheap and has all the features I need, it's just that the interface is terrible. It's like they designed the software by looking at a checklist, and nobody involved in the process has ever even thought about actually editing a video or how the software will actually be used. A little work on the interface (like considering where to put or not put limitations on timelapses) would go a long way.
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Lift wrote:The thing is, Corel is cheap and has all the features I need, it's just that the interface is terrible. It's like they designed the software by looking at a checklist, and nobody involved in the process has ever even thought about actually editing a video or how the software will actually be used. A little work on the interface (like considering where to put or not put limitations on timelapses) would go a long way.
What you seem to have forgotten, is that VS is NOT a Corel product and came as part of the package when they purchased Ulead. the VS development team ceased to exist and Corel still have major issues updating the program, just look at the old Ulead data still being used in the program. We would all agree that VS needs a complete rebuild, but do Corel have the development personnel and the willingness to carry out such a task.
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