Dropping Frames - Video Studio 9
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Thomas Media
Dropping Frames - Video Studio 9
My System:
2.4ghz Pentium 4
2 Gig of RAM
2- 120 Gig Hard Drives 7200 RPM
Windows XP (Home)
Nvidia G-Forge FX5600
Creative Sound Blaster Audigy 2 zs
Video Studio 9 (Retail Box Version)
My system has been in use for about 2 years now. I used to
use video studio 6 and I captured just fine. Upgraded to Version 9
and also reformatted my hard drive and removed the internet and
programs that could interfere with the editing process. I'm capturing
using firewire. I've gone into the task manager and turned the priority
level down on all programs that it would allow except videostudio.
I've read the recommended procedure post and followed it. I've
updated my video drivers, win xp and video studio with the latest
patches and drivers. I've tried capturing to DV, MPEG2, AVI and DVD.
During capture It will show me that it's dropping frames. When I play
the video back in another program, like media player, it plays back
with the missing frames and pops in the audio.
I've been unable to produce a complete project in 4 months and soon
you will see all of my equipment on EBAY if I cannot fix this problem.
This is my first post. I hope I've provided enough info. I think I've read
enough posts trying to figure this out.............H E L P !!!!!!!!
2.4ghz Pentium 4
2 Gig of RAM
2- 120 Gig Hard Drives 7200 RPM
Windows XP (Home)
Nvidia G-Forge FX5600
Creative Sound Blaster Audigy 2 zs
Video Studio 9 (Retail Box Version)
My system has been in use for about 2 years now. I used to
use video studio 6 and I captured just fine. Upgraded to Version 9
and also reformatted my hard drive and removed the internet and
programs that could interfere with the editing process. I'm capturing
using firewire. I've gone into the task manager and turned the priority
level down on all programs that it would allow except videostudio.
I've read the recommended procedure post and followed it. I've
updated my video drivers, win xp and video studio with the latest
patches and drivers. I've tried capturing to DV, MPEG2, AVI and DVD.
During capture It will show me that it's dropping frames. When I play
the video back in another program, like media player, it plays back
with the missing frames and pops in the audio.
I've been unable to produce a complete project in 4 months and soon
you will see all of my equipment on EBAY if I cannot fix this problem.
This is my first post. I hope I've provided enough info. I think I've read
enough posts trying to figure this out.............H E L P !!!!!!!!
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THoff
1. Turn OFF the Disk Indexing Service.
2. Make sure the hard drives are using DMA and not PIO mode. You can verify this in Device Manager by looking at the IDE controller channels.
3. Try capturing using WinDV. It has a minimal resource footprint, and can buffer up to 99 frames in memory if the disk is temporarily busy.
2. Make sure the hard drives are using DMA and not PIO mode. You can verify this in Device Manager by looking at the IDE controller channels.
3. Try capturing using WinDV. It has a minimal resource footprint, and can buffer up to 99 frames in memory if the disk is temporarily busy.
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Thomas Media
Thanks for the quick reply. I appreciate your time.
I already had DMA enabled.
I'm not sure where to find the Disk Indexing Service. Is that in Control
Panel under Administrative Tools / Services. All I found was Indexing
Service and it was set to manual. I changed to disable and tried again
with no luck.
I will try WinDV but why is the program not capable of doing what it
designed to do? My system is sufficient and I was able to do this in the
past with Version 6.
Thanks again for your time.
I already had DMA enabled.
I'm not sure where to find the Disk Indexing Service. Is that in Control
Panel under Administrative Tools / Services. All I found was Indexing
Service and it was set to manual. I changed to disable and tried again
with no luck.
I will try WinDV but why is the program not capable of doing what it
designed to do? My system is sufficient and I was able to do this in the
past with Version 6.
Thanks again for your time.
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THoff
To turn off disk indexing for a drive, right-click on the drive icon in Windows Explorer, bring up the Properties dialog, and uncheck the checkbox for the service. Also, make sure that the Compression checkbox is unchecked, at least for your capture location (the folder, not the whole drive).
Nobody says your system isn't able to capture without dropping frames -- I hae a laptop with less power that works fine. Let's work through a process of elimination before we assign blame.
Nobody says your system isn't able to capture without dropping frames -- I hae a laptop with less power that works fine. Let's work through a process of elimination before we assign blame.
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maddrummer3301
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scotty
I have a similar system, sort of, 2.8M P4, 512k RAM, and don't have any problem capturing type 2 AVI. I do this because it is what my DV camera seems to produce.
I did have a lot of problems earlier when I was playing with the codecs and compression. I have Panasonic DV so I use the Panasonic DV codec and type 2 as I said before.
I'm not sure anyone else has said this but I shut everything else down when I am capturing, eg internet, firewall, virus protection, etc.
I did have a lot of problems earlier when I was playing with the codecs and compression. I have Panasonic DV so I use the Panasonic DV codec and type 2 as I said before.
I'm not sure anyone else has said this but I shut everything else down when I am capturing, eg internet, firewall, virus protection, etc.
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Thomas Media
Thanks again to everyone for the help and suggestions!
I downloaded WinDV and captured video perfectly. I think
it's the best looking capture I've seen on my system. I put
a few clips in the timeline and things seemed to go ok.
I would still like to get Videostudio to work with capturing but
I guess WinDV will work too.
Most of the projects I do are captured with 2 different cameras.
(Sony DCR-TRV38 and a Sony DCR-VX2100)
I usually use the DCR-TRV38 to capture from so I can save the
wear and tear on the more expensive DCR-VX2100. During my
capture problems I did try using the camera that recorded the footage
to capture with. Still had problems.
When I captured to DV/AVI I was using Type 1 and Type 2 with the
same results.
Like I said in my original post I am not using the internet or any programs
in the background that could cause the system to slow down. I even
opened the Task Manager while capturing to see if anything changes or
starts running and nothing does. Is it normal though for the CPU meter to
get in the 90% range while capturing?
Ok, this post is getting too long. I'm still waiting for my system to finish
turning off the Index Service on my drive. I'll post again after I try a
few more of THoff's suggestions.
I downloaded WinDV and captured video perfectly. I think
it's the best looking capture I've seen on my system. I put
a few clips in the timeline and things seemed to go ok.
I would still like to get Videostudio to work with capturing but
I guess WinDV will work too.
Most of the projects I do are captured with 2 different cameras.
(Sony DCR-TRV38 and a Sony DCR-VX2100)
I usually use the DCR-TRV38 to capture from so I can save the
wear and tear on the more expensive DCR-VX2100. During my
capture problems I did try using the camera that recorded the footage
to capture with. Still had problems.
When I captured to DV/AVI I was using Type 1 and Type 2 with the
same results.
Like I said in my original post I am not using the internet or any programs
in the background that could cause the system to slow down. I even
opened the Task Manager while capturing to see if anything changes or
starts running and nothing does. Is it normal though for the CPU meter to
get in the 90% range while capturing?
Ok, this post is getting too long. I'm still waiting for my system to finish
turning off the Index Service on my drive. I'll post again after I try a
few more of THoff's suggestions.
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Thomas Media
THoff,
Well, I turned off the Disk Indexing Service and Compression.
Still cannot capture without dropping frames.
I also called Tech Support today. They mentioned that when I reformatted
my hard drive that maybe something did not install properly. They also
wanted me to try putting my firewire card on a different slot. I haven't
tried that yet. Just wondering what your opinion is. They also said something about the video card and the firewire card using their own
separate IRQ set in the system bios. They might be sharing the same
one and that's causing a problem. I looked around in that area but that
kind of stuff is hard enough to understand let alone know what to change.
Your input would be appreciated !
Thanks
Well, I turned off the Disk Indexing Service and Compression.
Still cannot capture without dropping frames.
I also called Tech Support today. They mentioned that when I reformatted
my hard drive that maybe something did not install properly. They also
wanted me to try putting my firewire card on a different slot. I haven't
tried that yet. Just wondering what your opinion is. They also said something about the video card and the firewire card using their own
separate IRQ set in the system bios. They might be sharing the same
one and that's causing a problem. I looked around in that area but that
kind of stuff is hard enough to understand let alone know what to change.
Your input would be appreciated !
Thanks
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GeorgeBW
Thomas Media
Hi,
You have captured successfully without the dropped frames problem using WinDV, so it is unlikely that there is a conflict with IRQ... You are still using the same Firewire Port for the capture...? I am presuming that your VGA card is AGP rather than PCIe. (GeForce FX5600, quite an old chipset). The AGP slot is allocated a legacy IRQ and I/O address which Windows XP will not share between the VGA and other devices.. On the other hand, the Host controller for IEEE1394 device, might have a shared IRQ.. so there is potential here for conflict if devices sharing the IRQ require CPU intervention at the same time. Windows XP is usually very good at avoiding this kind of conflict, and as you seem to be having no problem using the WinDV capture program... it seems that XP is doing its job.. You can try moving the Firewire card to another slot. It might just make a difference... but the indications are that the problem you have seems to be elsewhere in your system..
I see that you tried capture straight to MPEG2... You can do this with UVS9, but are almost certain to experience dropped frames.. usually you will be using relatively high bitrates and simultaneously capturing Audio. I get the same problem under these circumstances. DV-AVI is by far the best method of capture for an assured result.
Turning off background processes isn't as easy as closing down an icon in the notification area. This is often just a shortcut to a control console. For example, AV programs often have background running processes that are started by the registry... so opening Task Manager and checking the running TSRs is a smart move. AVG actually has 3 processes that run even when the auto-protect icon has been switched off, so these should be switched off too in Task Manager when capturing or rendering. An ADSL Internet connection scans I/O ports at intervals, writes logs and uses up valuable RAM so should also be disabled while capturing or rendering. The Disk Indexing Service that Thoff mentioned... I recall that being a real nuisance with a SCSI interface, I had in the past. In fact, get into the habit of shutting everything down except for the processes you need to run UVS..
In the meantime, you have the ability to capture your DV clips using WinDV. Then import them into UVS for editing and added FX before burning your DVD.. You can get on and enjoy the scope that UVS9 gives you... and put E-Bay onto semi-permanent hold.
Good Luck
GeorgeBW
Hi,
You have captured successfully without the dropped frames problem using WinDV, so it is unlikely that there is a conflict with IRQ... You are still using the same Firewire Port for the capture...? I am presuming that your VGA card is AGP rather than PCIe. (GeForce FX5600, quite an old chipset). The AGP slot is allocated a legacy IRQ and I/O address which Windows XP will not share between the VGA and other devices.. On the other hand, the Host controller for IEEE1394 device, might have a shared IRQ.. so there is potential here for conflict if devices sharing the IRQ require CPU intervention at the same time. Windows XP is usually very good at avoiding this kind of conflict, and as you seem to be having no problem using the WinDV capture program... it seems that XP is doing its job.. You can try moving the Firewire card to another slot. It might just make a difference... but the indications are that the problem you have seems to be elsewhere in your system..
I see that you tried capture straight to MPEG2... You can do this with UVS9, but are almost certain to experience dropped frames.. usually you will be using relatively high bitrates and simultaneously capturing Audio. I get the same problem under these circumstances. DV-AVI is by far the best method of capture for an assured result.
Turning off background processes isn't as easy as closing down an icon in the notification area. This is often just a shortcut to a control console. For example, AV programs often have background running processes that are started by the registry... so opening Task Manager and checking the running TSRs is a smart move. AVG actually has 3 processes that run even when the auto-protect icon has been switched off, so these should be switched off too in Task Manager when capturing or rendering. An ADSL Internet connection scans I/O ports at intervals, writes logs and uses up valuable RAM so should also be disabled while capturing or rendering. The Disk Indexing Service that Thoff mentioned... I recall that being a real nuisance with a SCSI interface, I had in the past. In fact, get into the habit of shutting everything down except for the processes you need to run UVS..
In the meantime, you have the ability to capture your DV clips using WinDV. Then import them into UVS for editing and added FX before burning your DVD.. You can get on and enjoy the scope that UVS9 gives you... and put E-Bay onto semi-permanent hold.
Good Luck
GeorgeBW
