new image texture background 2019

[Ken Veal]

File>open > File>new-New image box opens. I need the new image as a textured background for the 1st image. Can someone please advise me what to click, apply or set and in what order in the material palette and new image box to achieve this .I click on the image box colour>texture>grass and other variations but cannot get the texture to show
Ken

[LeviFiction]

Textures appear when you draw on them. They are meant to imitate bumpy or textured surfaces. They don't appear as actual images on the canvas. If you need an image as a background, you have to either use patterns, or open the image, copy and paste it as a layer into the image where you want it.

[hartpaul]

I am confused by this:
"File>open > File>new-New image box opens.
What is the purpose of File > Open - this gives you a dialog to open an image from a folder into PSP

Do you mean that you have opened an image and then made a new document which you want to have a texture on it?

In any case to get a textured background do this
1. File> New and make a new document eg 1000 x 1000 pixe;ls and can be a white or colored or transparent background .
2. Double click the Foreground and Stroke properties box to get the Material Properties dialog . Choose your Texture Tab and then the texture you want to use. Click OK
3. Under the Foreground and Stroke properties box there are three buttons - first one gives you choices of Color , Gradient or Pattern. The second one gives you Texture and the third Transparency for some tools. Also choose what color if any you want. Click that second Texture button. so that the texture is showing.
4. Choose the Flood Fill tool and click on your document and it will be filled with the texture in the color you chose.

[Ken Veal]

Thanks for the helpful reply Hartpaul.I am trying to follow , using PSPRo 2019, a tutorial using X I think.If you look at 3D PHOTO FRAME PAINT SHOP PRO X
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wz6T6mYmyms at 0.28 secs that is where I got the advice to go file open then file new.At 2.27 secs it mentions typing 10 into the X perspective in the Interactive Properties Bar.If 2019 has got ths Bar or its equivalent, I cant find it.Can I please be advised on this
Ken

[hartpaul]

No it says about 25s to open an image -not File > Open.
Then at 28 it says File > New to make the background document
You will also note at 54 seconds she double clicks on the color box in the New Image dialog and then selects a pattern not a texture. This is a faster way of getting a pattern on your background but you still have to flood fill or paint to get your texture by selecting the Texture button just before you fill or paint.

To get the Interactive Properties Bar after converting that layer to a raster you need to choose the Pick Tool just below the Hand - it will either show an Arrow for theh Pick Tool or a 4 direction arrow for the Move tool but it is there.

[JoeB]

Thanks for the helpful reply Hartpaul.I am trying to follow , using PSPRo 2019, a tutorial using X I think.If you look at 3D PHOTO FRAME PAINT SHOP PRO X
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wz6T6mYmyms at 0.28 secs that is where I got the advice to go file open then file new.

The tutorial does not say to go to File>Open File>New. It says to first open an image in your workspace. That could be done by File>Open, but that is one step. After you have done that, then you are supposed to go to File>New to create a new, second image. However, the tutorial narrator doesn't make that clear by - after telling you to open an image - then saying something like "Then your next step is to go to File>New to create a second image to use as your background." Instead, she just says to first open an image and then says "Go to File>New", which could be easily interpreted to be that she is saying that this is the way to achieve the first step she mentioned. If you actually interpreted it correctly, then the way you presented it was not correct which is what confused @hartpaul.

And, as in many tutorials, there is another example of this tutorial not providing clear, step by step instructions. Because when she does say to go to File>New and create your new background image she then says that you want to make it larger than your photo and so says to set the pixel size to 900x 800 pixels. But if you look at the status bar of her PSP you'll see that the photo has a pixel size of more than 2000 pixels in each dimension. So that advice was misleading and, once she pastes the image onto the background she has to resize it to fit. In doing so she fails to tell you to select the Pick Tool to achieve this resizing, so again provides incomplete instructions.

And, for your purpose given your original post, you'll notice that the background she chose for the new image was a Pattern, not a Texture as you were trying to do.

At 2.27 secs it mentions typing 10 into the X perspective in the Interactive Properties Bar.If 2019 has got ths Bar or its equivalent, I cant find it.Can I please be advised on this.
Ken

To my knowledge, PSP has never had an Interactive Properties Bar, although I stand to be corrected because she is using PSPX5 which I don't have. What PSP does have is a Tool Options palette, which is the bar which she is showing where to set the perspective of the vector rectangle.

And my last comment about the tutorial is its title, which is Creating 3D Photo Frames. If you noticed, the frame she created around the image is not 3 dimensional but just a flat, white frame. The vast majority of people who create the type of images she was providing the tutorial for call these images Out Of Bounds images or sometimes Out of Frames images. If you search Google for 3D photo frames you'll get many links to photo frames that look 3 dimensional rather than flat. If you search for Out of Bound Images instead you'll get many links to the type of image she was creating. So the tutorial would have been better titled something like Creating Out of Bounds images in PSP.

There are a variety of methods that can be used to create these images. The link below is to your recent post in this forum with another method. But if you read the whole thread you'll know that, like this tutorial, it wasn't complete or at least not completely detailed enough either unfortunately. But the comments in the thread at least clear up a few of those deficiencies in this written tutorial, and it's obviously another option you have tried in creating Out of Bounds images. The best suggestion IMHO in the youtube tutorial you linked to in this thread is the use of the vector rectangle to create the frame so that when the perspective is changed you're not going to get jaggies from the distortion of the frame.

As I said, there are various ways to do this, but it would help if those posting tutorials on methods would at least take the time to make sure that their tutorials are both detailed and accurate and not rushed, which causes them to leave out some details that are helpful - and often necessary - to new users trying to follow the steps.

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[hartpaul]

Hi Joe - good explanation. Yes these tutorials do not seem to have been tested for correct terms and some of them also suffer from the Photoshop Tutorial effect .
You mentioned that the image was much larger than the frame, but that did as so many PS (BS) tutorials do gives the presenter a chance to demonstrate another feature - (bit like a walk through the woods to see some daisys and then back to the path again by a longer way.) In this case the presenter was able to demonstrate how to resize with the pick tool to make the image fit within the patterned image. I have noticed this in a number of PS tutorials where the shortest directions should go
A > B> C > D. But instead the tutorial goes A > B > F > G > C < D.
In this tutorial the easiest would have been to have the two images present and correctly sized to start as the purpose of the tutorial is to frame the photo , change the perspective of the frame and then operations to erase part of the frame and make the image look like it is popping out of the frame.
Instead the side trips showed :
how to fill a new document with a pattern
how to resize the image on a layer using the pick tool
possibly more but I did not look through therest of the tutorial.
These were unnecessary additions and complicated the tutorial for a beginner.
It is almost as if teh presenters want to show off the other features of the program rather than using the K.I.S.S principle.