Issues burning a simple VHS movie to DVD

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Issues burning a simple VHS movie to DVD

Post by mabiak »

I am using VS8. I have captured 1 hour and 48 minutes of VHS video as mpg2 which ends up being about 6.5GB.

I want to burn it to a DVD. I create a simple, Automatic chaptering scheme of 15 minutes per section. That is the only "effect" applied to the video. No menus, no nothing.

In "Create Disk" of Share, I change the project setting's MPEG setting to Fair Quality, enough it says for 120 minutes of video, which reduces the the size in the DVD bar to 4.03GB which should be within the amount of space available on the DVD. At least it shows the size to be less than the first cutoff line in the bar.

I am using 4.7GB 8X DVD-R in a Sony DVD-RW.
The "Required/Available Harddrive" numbers show as 8.3/30.5GB
The "Required/Available Disc" numbers show as 4.2/4.8GB

After 5 hours of rendering (twice! just to see if there was a glitch) I end up with an alert box message telling me there is not enough disk space. I try another disk as the alert suggests and get the same results.

What gives? Any help?
Trevor Andrew

Post by Trevor Andrew »

Hi mabiak
Its probabily best to start your own post
Sent this to

http://phpbb.ulead.com.tw/EN/viewtopic.php?t=6388

Hi
Please read the recommended procedure from this posting:-

http://phpbb.ulead.com.tw/EN/viewtopic.php?t=27


2 / Your capture / clip settings maybe incorrect I think.
What are they?
Right click a clip in the timeline select properties what are they?

You need to ‘create a video file’ prior to making a dvd.
(as the recomended proceedure)

If your footage is 1hr 48 min then the bitrate should be about 4000.kb/s

From the project timeline after editing .Share—Create Video File
Use custom Mpeg files
Options—change the compression to 4000
If you are in a Pal area select Mpeg audio.

I use the bitrate calculator to help set my capture properties.
http://dvd-hq.info/Calculator.html


Now using the new file(which should be under 4.3 Gb)
Start a new project alter the project settings to match the new clip settings.
Share Create Disc.
You should not have to render again, you should not see the info window 'this will take some time to render'

Read my quick guide to mpeg from the link below, read 4000 for bit rate.

Hope this Helps

Trevor
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mabiak

this is a no go

Post by mabiak »

What you've just told me is that, if I value my time, Video Studio is the wrong product.

Choosing Create Disk allows me to choose, which I did and stated, a setting of "Fair" which is, as you recommend, 4000kbps.

In "create disk" VS first begins "converting" the video file, which is the same as the solution you've recommended to "create video file." But on top of all that, you say I should do the same project again?

There must be a better solution. The issue the alert box sends me is regarding disk space.

I bought VS thinking I could copy my family videos to DVD and apply some effects and do a little editing.

If I have the wrong product, please tell me. I have 20 six hour tapes to copy!

Thanks any how.

Any one else have any suggestions?
THoff

Post by THoff »

Another option would be to use UVS to output to an ISO disk image file or VIDEO_TS folder, and then use DVD Shrink to reduce the video to fit onto a single-layer disk. The DVD Shrink project page has disappeared, but copies of the program are available on the Internet.
mabiak

possibly a good solution

Post by mabiak »

Thanks for the tip. I'll give that a try.
Trevor Andrew

Post by Trevor Andrew »

Hi mabaik

May be I am not explaining my self correctly.

First of all I think you have the correct software to do the job.

Whatever software you choose to use your final product has to be a video file small enough to copy to a DVD, a file size no larger than 4.3 Gb (4.7).
Anything larger and it will not fit to a disc and you will have to use some other rendering/compression process to make it fit. This took 5 hours last time you did it.
Creating a file smaller than 4.3 Gb and you wont have to render again.(assuming you are not editing)

Your captured file 1hr 48 mins was 6.5 Gb, far to large to fit a dvd.
You have not told us what capture settings you used.
What were they?
What are your clip properties?

If I were capturing 1hr 48 mins I would use one of these settings depending which TV area:-

For PAL settings use
MPEG Files
24 Bits, 720 x 576, 25.00 fps
Upper Field First
(DVD-PAL), 4:3
Video data rate: 4000 kbps (Use a bit rate calculator to help with these settings)
Audio data rate: 256 kbps
Dolby Digital Audio, 48.0 KHz, Stereo

For NTSC settings use
MPEG Files
24 Bits, 720 x 480, 29.97 fps
Upper Field First
(DVD-NTSC), 4:3
Video data rate: 4000 kbps
LPCM Audio, 48.0 KHz, Stereo or Dolby Digital Audio, 48.0 KHz, Stereo


This should capture a file small enough to fit.
After capturing a clip is placed in the timeline, remove this clip, you have nothing in the timeline.
Share Create disc. Add video-Use the captured video.

If you edit in the timeline or your video clip is to big you must CREATE A VIDEO FILE from Share.
Then Create Disc.

Trevor
mabiak

tried your suggestion but...

Post by mabiak »

I didn't need the computer for the day, so I tried your previous suggestion.

I took my captured video, ran it through "Create Video File" at 4000kbps. This took several hours.

Then I started a new project, placed my new video file into it, and ran "Create Disk."

VS took several hours to "Convert File" but surprisingly, there was no problem with disk space alerts.

This could have been due to a defrag I ran prior to the process.

Unfortunately, after an overall total of 8 hours of processing for this one video, it came out, grainy looking and with the sound out of sync.

That's enough for me.

Thanks for your help though.
Trevor Andrew

Post by Trevor Andrew »

Hi

The process you are trying to do should take about 2hrs 20 minutes, including capturing. Even though your capture is 1hr 48 minutes.

The second render in the burner stage should not happen, providing your clip properties are the same as the project properties.
Video studio automatically changes the project properties to match the first video clip placed in the timeline.

Do this:-

1 / From File / preferences / tick ‘Show message when inserting first clip….
2 / Start a new project.
3 / Select the Capture tab. Select ‘Capture Video’.
4 / Select Dvd as Format
5 / Select Options / Video and Audio Capture Property Settings……
6 / Select ‘Advanced’
7 / Change the Bit Rate Value (kbps) to 4000.
8 / Capture your video, 1hr 48 minutes when finished you will receive the info window from (1) above
If you wish, look at the details then Select YES
The video clip is placed in the library and the timeline.
9 / As you are not intending to edit the video DELETE the CLIP from the TIMELINE.
You are now left with a project with nothing the timeline.
10 / Go to Share – Create Disc----ADD VIDEO----
Using the video you captured above, add it to the burner timeline.
11 / Create your menu’s and chapters.
12 / Burn the disc
Video Studio should start multiplexing the file, YOU SHOULD NOT SEE THE WINDOW ’THIS PROCESS WILL TAKE A LONG TIME TO RENDER’
The burn process may take 15 minutes or so.

You still haven’t provided any details of your captured clip, I don’t even know whether you are in a Pal area or Ntsc. ( what country do you live in?)

Again the above process including capture should take about 2hrs 20 mins.
If the rendering process starts then your settings are incorrect.

Trevor
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