copyright problems on capture

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vroman
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copyright problems on capture

Post by vroman »

I am trying to change some of my old childrens videos to dvd. When I try to capture it the program says" unable to capture the file because it is copyright protected" Is there anyway around this? I am using media studio pro 7. Someone please help. Thank you
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Post by GeorgeW »

what is the format /source of the old videos?

How are you trying to capture -- or what are the connectuions you are making from video source to computer :?:

Do you have the proper format selected -- NTSC or PAL (depending on source) :?:
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Post by Devil »

When you say children's videos, do you mean home videos of your children or commercial videos for children? If the latter, it is a forum policy not to recommend any means of breaking the copyright protection. If the former, we may be able to help. What is the format of the originals?
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Post by AnimeChick »

If you are capturing VHS video, it's probably Macrovision encoding and that should prevent analog capturing. Essentially all you would get it the test color bar pattern.
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Post by vroman »

I am trying to capture the video through a Dazzle hollywood bridge. The videos I am trying to capture are copyright protected but they are aging and I want to keep them, for example Mary Poppins. My children watch them so often they are warping. That's why I want to restore them on DVD. Is that illegal? When I play the video on the computer through the bridge it plays fine. As soon as I try to capture it stops. Can someone help?
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Post by Terry Stetler »

Most consumer analog capture cards (Dazzle, Pinnacle, Matrox etc. etc.) have had problems with their Macrovision modules over the years.

Macrovision was pretty much forced on the capture card makers by Hollyweird so people wouldn't use them to copy their (usually worthless) media content. A few higher end (read: semi-pro and higher) cards were spared this fate but most did not.

Analog Macrovision works by reducing the strength of the synch pulse (one marks the start of every video frame) and/or colorburst signals on the tape enough that playing them on a TV isn't a problem but it will trigger the copy protection schemes built into VCR's and other recording devices like capture cards.

Basically if the tapes colorburst, synch pulse or the signal level are degraded from age, wear or The Will Of The Video Gods it mimics the analog Macrovision protection scheme and the cards drivers can't tell the difference. When this happens it "goes back to mommie" and throws the Macrovision error.

Feeding the stream through a device that restores the degraded signal(s) more often than not alleviates the problem.

Sometimes a simple video amplifier is enough to resurrect the signal strength enough for capture. You can get one of these at Radio Shack for about $20-$30.

Other times something more powerful is in order as just a simple amp cannot restore the synch pulse or colorburst in ways that "please" the capture drivers Macrovision module.

A device called a TBC (time base corrector) can restore the synch pulse. Thease are often found in S-VHS decks so playing the tape with one of these can restore just the synch pulse and allow capture. TBC's are also available as standalone devices or PCI cards. Generally not cheap.

When it's not just the synch pulse more oomph is in order. Such devices are called PROCAMP's and they can not only boost the levels and restore the synch pulse but also restore a proper colorburst. They run from the basic SIMA Color Corrector 2 or GoDVD's ($100-$150 @ Best Buy) to more professional boxes like the Elite Video BVP-4+ ($730) and up.

IMO if the Radio Shack amp doesn't do it I'd just take the tapes to a video service center and let them restore 'em to a DVD. It's a lot cheapter for just a single job like this unless you have need for the SIMA boxes in your home theater system.

Leave the semi pro stuff like the BVP-4+ etc. to those of us who do a lot of this kind of thing. Cheap they ain't :roll:
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Post by DVDDoug »

If you only have a few of these tapes, it wouldn't be much more expensive to replace them with DVDs, if DVDs are available. You'll save time and the quality will be better.

Legal-
In the USA, it is OK to make copies for personal non-commercial use. This is covered under the "fair use" copyright exception. It is the same exception that allows copy machines in your local library.

Technical -
You can buy a macrovision remover box that connects between your VCR and your capture device. I have The Clarifier (classic model, $70) and it seems to work. However, I haven't used it that much because my Hauppauge capture card seems to ignore the Macrovision signal.
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Post by vroman »

Thanks everyone for your quick responses and help.
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