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"New Layer" back in right-click menu

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shakyjake wrote:"New Layer" back in right-click menu (I'm still on X3 because of this :D )
That's going back lots of versions when there is a simple fix. You can customize any right-click/context menu to have any item you want. I have attached a screenshot of the right-click menu I get when I right click in the layers palette of PSP2018, which has been customized by me.

P.S. To customize context menus you have to use the Menu tab in the Customize dialogue, select the context menu you want to customize from the dropdown in the right pane (which will pop up a window with that context menu), and then customize that menu by then going to the Commands tab and dragging the items you want from the relevant category there into the context menu that had popped up.
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shakyjake wrote:"New Layer" back in right-click menu (I'm still on X3 because of this :D )
That's going back lots of versions when there is a simple fix. You can customize any right-click/context menu to have any item you want. I have attached a screenshot of the right-click menu I get when I right click in the layers palette of PSP2018, which has been customized by me.

P.S. To customize context menus you have to use the Menu tab in the Customize dialogue, select the context menu you want to customize from the right pane, and then customize the palette that pops up by then going to the Commands tab and dragging the items you want from the relevant category there.
Thanks. It took me a while to figure out the territory, but I did.
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JoeB wrote:That's going back lots of versions when there is a simple fix. You can customize any right-click/context menu to have any item you want. I have attached a screenshot of the right-click menu I get when I right click in the layers palette of PSP2018, which has been customized by me.

P.S. To customize context menus you have to use the Menu tab in the Customize dialogue, select the context menu you want to customize from the dropdown in the right pane (which will pop up a window with that context menu), and then customize that menu by then going to the Commands tab and dragging the items you want from the relevant category there into the context menu that had popped up.
:shock: Oh, wow. I had no idea you could do that. I can finally move off X3! :D

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shakyjake wrote:[
:shock: Oh, wow. I had no idea you could do that. I can finally move off X3! :D

Cheers Joe
You can customize the context menus, the dropdowns when you click a menu item, toolbars - just about anything in PSP. :-)
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Which is why I am puzzled by people saying they are used to say Jasc PSP8 or PSP9 and don't want to change.
By making the customisation so easy you can remove items that those earlier versions did not have and rearrange them so that they look almost exactly like the previous versions.
Or you can even have a hybrid where you accept some of the improved changes added to those earlier versions.

Or because you can have many versions installed and running at the same time you can switch between the different versions and even drag an image from one version to another to take advantage of a later introduced feature.
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hartpaul wrote:Which is why I am puzzled by people saying they are used to say Jasc PSP8 or PSP9 and don't want to change.
By making the customisation so easy you can remove items that those earlier versions did not have and rearrange them so that they look almost exactly like the previous versions.
Or you can even have a hybrid where you accept some of the improved changes added to those earlier versions.

Or because you can have many versions installed and running at the same time you can switch between the different versions and even drag an image from one version to another to take advantage of a later introduced feature.
I think you have something.

As a dedicated user of PSP7 since it first came out, I think you do not have to go very far. At first, I used PSP7 to spruce up my output from Inkscape. Then I used the on-screen formatting in the Print function. But since PSPx8 I haven't even needed that, and my PSP7 use has fallen to very little -- I only use it when I want something to load lightning-fast; no other need. Now with the (for me) newly-discovered customizations I may confine all of my work to PSP 2018.
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ehume wrote:As a dedicated user of PSP7 since it first came out, I think you do not have to go very far. At first, I used PSP7 to spruce up my output from Inkscape. Then I used the on-screen formatting in the Print function. But since PSPx8 I haven't even needed that, and my PSP7 use has fallen to very little -- I only use it when I want something to load lightning-fast; no other need. Now with the (for me) newly-discovered customizations I may confine all of my work to PSP 2018.
PSP can do virtually anything that the average graphic program user needs that can be done in Photoshop, and most of the stuff most semi-professional users need also (although decent color management seems beyond their abilities, unfortunately.) Besides its more than competitive pricing, I have always believed that its greatest feature is the almost unlimited customizations that users can do with the interface - re-arranging menus and/or adding items to them, the same with toolbars, adding your own custom toolbars or menus, and binding scripts that can be added to any of those menus and/or toolbars.

Corel's problem - another marketing failure IMHO - is that they don't promote the customization feature nearly as much as they should. It should be promoted more aggressively and in more detail on their site, AND they should dedicate a lot more space in the Help files to DETAILED explanations of how to do the various customizations and the advantages of doing those customizations. Videos in their Discovery Center would convince people how easy it is to get the version of PSP that you want to use and still get the latest tools that you want to use from the latest version.

I not only have various menus (context and dropdown) customized - which I carry over into new versions - but have at least a dozen or more bound scripts added to both menus and toolbars. They are scripts that automate certain processes into one or two click solutions rather than having to drill down through menus or manually select different tools to do each step of the process, as well as scripts that open various standalone programs as plugins within PSP.

People should really be taking advantage of the customization options within PSP. There's no reason for Corel to be adding, for example, some requested item to a menu or toolbar when the item it is already available to be put there by the user with the use of PSP's customization. I'd rather that Corel spend their time on actual new stuff, rather than re-arranging menus or toolbars that users can do themselves. After all, customization is one of PSP's features which, I presume, may have been one feature that convinced some people to try it. So why not use it, eh?
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JoeB wrote: . . .
Corel's problem - another marketing failure IMHO - . . .

People should really be taking advantage of the customization options within PSP. There's no reason for Corel to be adding, for example, some requested item to a menu or toolbar when the item it is already available to be put there by the user with the use of PSP's customization. I'd rather that Corel spend their time on actual new stuff, rather than re-arranging menus or toolbars that users can do themselves. After all, customization is one of PSP's features which, I presume, may have been one feature that convinced some people to try it. So why not use it, eh?
I agree with you on the marketing but disagree about features that can be customized in. If something can be customized in, it is easy to do. Thus a dev can do it in minutes. While it is true that better marketing would obviate the need ("Hey. You can do THIS with our nifty customization feature; here's how . . . "), most people will not do the work.
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ehume wrote: I agree with you on the marketing but disagree about features that can be customized in. If something can be customized in, it is easy to do. Thus a dev can do it in minutes. While it is true that better marketing would obviate the need ("Hey. You can do THIS with our nifty customization feature; here's how . . . "), most people will not do the work.
You're probably correct unfortunately. Maybe it's just me, but personally I kind of enjoy the work of customizing the workspace so that it fits my particular workflow. Very few programs allow you such flexibility In making a program "yours," and I'm happy to take advantage of that feature at the outset. A bit of work to start, but with all the time I spend using PSP the customization saves me much, much more time over the period of time I'm working with it. It's also why I create scripts that do seemingly simple things (or use those created by others - and bug poor LeviFiction for help with some obscure script I would like) and bind them as buttons or to add to menus.

But everyone has their preference, so whatever floats your boat. But yeah, nice to see that we both agree that Corel could market that feature much better - and make it sound like a fun experience - which it is for me anyway! :-)
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JoeB wrote:
ehume wrote: I agree with you on the marketing but disagree about features that can be customized in. If something can be customized in, it is easy to do. Thus a dev can do it in minutes. While it is true that better marketing would obviate the need ("Hey. You can do THIS with our nifty customization feature; here's how . . . "), most people will not do the work.
You're probably correct unfortunately. Maybe it's just me, but personally I kind of enjoy the work of customizing the workspace so that it fits my particular workflow. Very few programs allow you such flexibility In making a program "yours," and I'm happy to take advantage of that feature at the outset. A bit of work to start, but with all the time I spend using PSP the customization saves me much, much more time over the period of time I'm working with it. It's also why I create scripts that do seemingly simple things (or use those created by others - and bug poor LeviFiction for help with some obscure script I would like) and bind them as buttons or to add to menus.

But everyone has their preference, so whatever floats your boat. But yeah, nice to see that we both agree that Corel could market that feature much better - and make it sound like a fun experience - which it is for me anyway! :-)
Amen! to everything you said. I love this (for me) newfound customization experience.
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