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Hi everyone (I say, trying to be cheery)

Could someone tell me if it is possible to playback a clip you have dragged to storyboard from library? Here is what happened.
1) I drag a clip from the library to story board. It is listed (where you see "clips" and "projects") as a clip. It will not play.
2)I hit "project" and it unselects the clip.
3) I hit play, and as with my past problems this discussion group nicely helped me with, still the clip does not play, but the
playhead jerks back a considerable distance in the project and still does not play. It is only after I select another clip that
my project plays back.
I like seeing right away a clip I've moved from library to the storyboard (there should be no logical reason it doesn't play) so
please do not suggest, unless Corel can't perform what I want, that I forget storyboard and use timeline.
As I said, I had this general problem a week or so ago and you people helped. But I'm still confused. I know that in timeline
the orange line over the track has something to do with a logical playback of timeline clips (keep in mind
my prime concern in this post is storyboard, not timeline) Is there some easy way to set that orange line so that
when I playback clips there won't be any jumping around?
Lastly, when you set a cue on timeline, how in the world do you jump from one cue to the next. The manual says nothing
about this.
Thank you, Al Marotta
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Hi Al
I am not able to use video studio to provide any screen shots to explain

There are two plackback modes, Project and Clip playback.
In Clip playback, that is with the clip selected I assume you are trimming the clip and possibly cutting the clip.
You may be using the mark-in and mark-in (F3 or F4)
To remove frames you must make sure that the word Clip is highlighted adjacent to the Play button
That indicates that a clip is selected

If the word Project is highlighted then using the Mark-in or Mark-out will not trim the clip but set the Project Range, creating that orange line.
And that is i feel the problem you are having, setting the project range by mistake.
We explained how to remove reset the preview range in your previous post

If you are still struggling I will provide a few screen shots when I have access to my pc
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Hi Trevor,
Thanks for weighing in. I think what you might be overlooking is that I am not trimming any clip, I'm moving a clip from the clips pane (whatever you call where you keep your unused clips) to the storyboard. Ten years ago in iMovie 6 if you dragged a clip from the clips pane to the storyboard you just logically selected it and it played. There was never any issue of trimming regarding playback in the storyboard. I assumed VSP would be a modern step forward, or at least equal to a ten year-old program, rather than a morass of counter-intuitiveness (not having names for each clip in storyboard drives me nuts) Please don't get turned off by my frustration. I'm fighting this, and trying hard and don't think I'm a dope.


Could you please indulge me---notwithstanding the extensive help you've given me over the past few weeks on the topic---and tell me once again how to set that orange bar preview thing. I don't recall(but with my memory wouldn't swear to it) anyone's telling me a quick way to set the orange bar, I just stumbled on to an awkward seeming way of doing it it somehow by moving the trim markers. I'm still not sure what you do to get that line where you want it. I've tried doing it, and I do see the orange line move, but it seems to me I lose all logical bearings on where I am in the project when I try. Please understand, in timeline if the orange bar is to be seen, I can view clips in timeline okay. But, I want to view clips coming from the clips pane to STORYBOARD without getting totally lost on where I am in the project, which is what happened when you start fooling with the scrubber and trim markers.

Is there a button you can hit to see the orange bar for the entire project? Can you tell me step by infantile step how you would get a clips from the clips pane into storyboard and thne go right to viewing it?


Thank you,

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I haven't used Storyboard view for many years, but given your preference for it, I have just tried to replicate your problem. But I can't... I set the view to Storyboard and dragged a random clip (which happened to be an mp4 HD) onto the storyboard. I also dragged another mp4 into second place so as to constitute a Project. On dragging the first clip in, I also got a message asking if I wanted the Project Properties to match. I said yes.

On dragging each clip in, each new one is selected (i.e. highlighted by a yellow box) -- the previous clip being unselected when the new one is highlighted. But when I move my mouse back over the first clip it can be selected again. "Clip" is also highlighted in blue directly below the preview screen. I press the Play button and the clip plays as a Clip, as expected -- no ifs, no buts... I select the second clip. It becomes highlighted and also plays as a clip when I press the play button.

When I select "Project" beneath the preview screen (highlighting it in blue), as you say the previously selected clip is no longer highlighted -- this is obviously because you have now selected the entire project and not any specific clip. But the scrubber/marker line remains where it was in the previously selected clip. To play the project from the start i.e. going back to the start of the first clip, I have to click on the button where the red arrow in my attached image is pointing. Selecting Project also plays perfectly well either from where the scrubber was located or from the start of the project. So as I say, I cannot replicate your problem. My setup works as advertised.

You will also see that I don't have any orange bar showing. Not sure where or how you got that with the steps you listed. But as usual you get rid of it by dragging the yellow markers to the extreme left and right of the white line immediately below the preview screen.
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OK, I just spent 20 minutes trying to duplicate your issue - couldn't duplicate as I had no issues playing a resource from the Storyboard view, Clip or Program view. If you would like, I can make a short LSC video to show it works for me.
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Made a LSC as MP4 - download from my Box account:

https://app.box.com/s/t9ak7td7uoq28tkavly22o2tvll8mpi3

I think this is what you are describing as the desired behavior.
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just need to make it very clear - you do not WANT or NEED the orange bar along the top of the timeline - it defines a selected segment of your project for very specific purposes and in fact we get more requests asking how to get rid of it than we do on how to get it

but in any case you cannot get it for ALL of the project - not only is there not a magic button but the orange line is just to show a part of your project - - if you really really really want it then just move the little yellow markers under the bar immediately under the preview window in very slightly from their end positions but as soon as you move both of them to their respective end positions the line will vanish

Watch gewb's video it shows exactly what I - and from the sound and look of it what everyone else gets -- -- if you are not getting this then show us some pictures or videos of your screen perhaps we can then see why your system appears to be acting differently


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Hi Everyone,

Thanks to everyone for hanging in there with me for what might seem an obvious problem but which wasn't. I think I had a breakthrough. Part of it's idiotic, the other understandable. I moved a clip from the clips pane into storyboard.I used my computer's space bar to get the clip moving and with a little more patience, a little more waiting than I ordinarily do, it started to work. I think maybe my small laptop needs just a few seconds to get going.So that part of my problem was solved. But here's the thing: I discovered that after I stopped a few times in the clip, it would not go forward again unless I backed up ten frames or so and tried again. Then it would work.


IS THERE SOME WAY to stop and then go forward in a clip in storyboard without having to back up ten frames from where you have stopped and try again? Could this just be a problem with my computer? It seems that, instead of being able to just stop and start in a storyboard clip, after using pause and play a couple of times (it works unpredictably) I have to prime the pump ten frames to get it to run. I've paid attention to Ken Berry's mentioning you have to hit the "home" button next to the play button, but the only thing that does for me is to bring the playhead back to the beginning of the clip.

BUT PLEASE INDULGE ME FOR ONE MORE THING WHICH SHOULD BE OBVIOUS BUT AIN'T!!!! In timeline, you've got a clip selected and the playhead is at, say, the middle of the clip, how do you play back the rest of the project from that point on without the playhead's being jerked to the BEGINNING of the project. In Imovie (I don't want to annoy my wonderful helpers by mentioning Imovie--it ain't that great) you merely unselected the clip where the playhead button was, press play and the rest of the project would play.

Thank you again most humbly,

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Hi Al -

OK, you are viewing Storyboard, have selected a resource on the board, and are playing the clip. You have stopped the clip midway through. Now you want to continue from the stopped point of the clip but play through the rest of the project (not just the clip) - is that correct?

If so, change to Project play (above the Clip play) then click the Play arrow.
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Thanks Gewb for checking in. I've tried for a long time to do exactly as you say. I select a clip and play it a bit then pause. I hit project and then play and the playhead, no matter where the previously selected clip was, goes to the BEGINNING of my project. It does not continue along in the project from where the playhead on the selected clip was.

Again, thank YOU.
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Al
If you switch from storyboard view to timeline view, do you see the orange line?

If yes you must get rid of that line
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Al Marotta wrote:Thanks Gewb for checking in. I've tried for a long time to do exactly as you say. I select a clip and play it a bit then pause. I hit project and then play and the playhead, no matter where the previously selected clip was, goes to the BEGINNING of my project. It does not continue along in the project from where the playhead on the selected clip was.

Again, thank YOU.
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In Storyboard view, when Project is selected
The scrubber, that's the white line Iimediatly above should be complete, theft is full length of the slider,
Any black section to the left or right would suggest that the project preview range has been set
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Gary
Add three clips
Set preview range from start to middle of second clip

In Clip playback, play second clip, then pause part way through
Select Project and play
Play starts at begging of clip one

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