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question before buying VS - compatibility with h.264, MOV

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Hey, guys,

I have Canon EOS 1100 D and I want to buy a new computer for video editing and some video editing software as well. So, I have a question about h.264 MOV files, made with Canon EOS 1100 D.

I want to import those files in VS and edit them. Is that possible? I mean, I`ve found information that Cyberlink`s Powerdirector isn`t compatible with h.264, so... I just want to check if VS is.

And, the other question is: is there any important thing to pay attention to when it comes to buying hardware/OS for VS? About CPU, GPU...

I want to do multicam in VS so I am wondering about minimum system and hardware requirements.

Thanks a lot!
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Re: question before buying VS - compatibility with h.264, MO

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Welcome to the forum.

There should be no difficulty with the .mov/H.264 clips as long as you have the Quicktime .mov codec installed on your computer. It does not come natively with Video Studio. There has been a lot of hype about Quicktime since Apple announced around two years ago that it was no longer supporting it for PCs. This apparently related to the Quicktime player, but not the codec. And it is easy enough just to install the codec without the other problematic elements of the QT package.

The information about Cyberlink PowerDirector not being compatible with H.264 is nonsense, unless the information you read related to a very old version of that program. I have had the last five versions of PowerDirector (for comparison purposes with Video Studio), and they don't have any trouble at all with H.264 video.
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MEGATURTLE wrote:I want to do multicam in VS so I am wondering about minimum system and hardware requirements.
A good place to start with with Corel's VideoStudio 2018 System Requirements (see https://www.videostudiopro.com/en/produ ... quirements).

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Ok, there are actually two questions.

1. h.264 COMPATIBILITY QUESTION

@ Ken Berry

Thanks a lot, Ken. I really appreciate your answer. I will definitely instal that codec and now I have to think again about buying PowerDirector instead of VS. You`re probably right that my information is related to some older version.


2. CPU QUESTION

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Ok, thanks. I have to say that I already knew for that link but I had to ask again because I don`t understand why is every i7 good for multicam and i5 isn`t. I mean, is it really true that if I buy i5-8600k then I couldn`t make splitscreen (multicam editing)? I am confused because I red somewhere that number of cores is more important than clockspeed for video editing. So, i5-8600k and some i7 have 4 cores.
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Re: question before buying VS - compatibility with h.264, MO

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Hi

I own a Canon 7D camera that records to 1920 x 1080 Mov , your 1100D appears to use 1280 x 720

From my own video samples the program has made improvements in that it recognises the video properties and shows a message to set the project settings to match. It is recommended that we do that.
Unfortunately Mov cannot be set as project properties, however Video Studio now sees the Mov as Mpeg4, so some changes in the program new to 2018.

If you can upload a sample to a sharing site we can test your video.
Otherwise run the trial to see if that does the job?
The trial does have its limitations but I feel it should work ok with Mov and Mpeg4 types.
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@lata

Thank you, Lata, for your answer. I will have to share some video in order to test compatibility of VS with my .MOV files (container: MVI, codec: h.264).
I cannot use trial version now because I don`t own good computer in this moment. I am planning to buy it and that`s why I am checking software compatibility with my files and hardware requirements for that software as well.
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Can you please clarify whether your video has names like XXX.mvi or XXX.mov? If it is mvi, then I have to confess I have never seen that before, and I am not sure that Video Studio would recognize it either...
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MEGATURTLE wrote:I mean, is it really true that if I buy i5-8600k then I couldn`t make splitscreen (multicam editing)?
This seems to be a powerful enough CPU but Corel is simply giving general recommendations and not listing every possible CPU that has the horsepower to give a satisfactory user experience. Historically an i7 outperforms an i5 within the same generation of CPU but an i5 8th generation CPU is generally more powerful than a 2nd Generation i7 so look at the performance benchmarks and draw your own conclusions.

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Ken Berry:
"Can you please clarify whether your video has names like XXX.mvi or XXX.mov"

I already had the same confusion on the other forum. It`s .mov, so don`t worry. Thank you for your question!

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This seems to be a powerful enough CPU but Corel is simply giving general recommendations and not listing every possible CPU that has the horsepower to give a satisfactory user experience. Historically an i7 outperforms an i5 within the same generation of CPU but an i5 8th generation CPU is generally more powerful than a 2nd Generation i7 so look at the performance benchmarks and draw your own conclusions."

I would really like to choose i5 8600 k if it`s enough for multicam, but if it isn`t than I would probably have to buy i7 8700 / i7 8700 k.
Anyhow, I really don`t know how to check that. :)

2. And, when I decide I have to think about cooler, RAM, GPU and so on.

So, I don`t know about RAM. Would 8 gb be enough? I listened to Roberto Blake talking about 4k editing. He said that 16 gb would be minimum for 4k but I am not doing 4k. I have HD files.


3. What about GPU for Corel VS or Cyberlink PD?

Thank you guys a lot! I will send you some video these days to check if it`s possible to import them and edit them.
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How long do you want your pc to last? Buying it for what you do now vs what you will do in a couple of years?

Personally, replacing pc's is a pain. I buy the highest end that I can afford so I tend to not have to replace for four or five years.
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MEGATURTLE wrote:Hey, guys,

I have Canon EOS 1100 D and I want to buy a new computer for video editing and some video editing software as well. So, I have a question about h.264 MOV files, made with Canon EOS 1100 D.

I want to import those files in VS and edit them. Is that possible? I mean, I`ve found information that Cyberlink`s Powerdirector isn`t compatible with h.264, so... I just want to check if VS is.

And, the other question is: is there any important thing to pay attention to when it comes to buying hardware/OS for VS? About CPU, GPU...

I want to do multicam in VS so I am wondering about minimum system and hardware requirements.

Thanks a lot!
PowerDirector opens .MOV files without QuickTime installed - including H.264 and Alpha PNG. Most NLE vendors have been moving away from QT Installation requirements for a number of years, because the default QT package from Apple installs the Player by default, and it's inevitable that telling users to download it can lead to a lot of people choosing the default install and installing a known security vulnerability on their PCs.

VideoStudio will require that CODEC (QuickTime Essentials - NOT the player) for some forms of QT media, though.
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I can drop .mov files on VS without any quick time codec installed. I cannont share/render a quick time output, and I am not interested in creating any. I only create .mp4 files at the moment.
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aljimenez wrote:I can drop .mov files on VS without any quick time codec installed. I cannont share/render a quick time output, and I am not interested in creating any. I only create .mp4 files at the moment.
QuickTime's container is used for different CODECs. H.264 is supported by almost everything, in an MOV container, but I've had issues with Variable Framerate Video, etc. displaying black video frames in NLEs (for example), or refusing to load at all - even when it's H.264.

I'm referring to specific QuickTime CODECs, like Alpha PNG sequence in a QT Container, which definitely need the CODEC installed from Apple, as Windows and many (if not most) NLEs do not support it out of the box.

This is useful for rendering out video with transparency, that you may want to layer onto other video (i.e. Titles form NewBlue Titler Pro - it renders out to this format when used standalone and the resulting video will neither play in Windows nor import into VideoStudio without QT Essentials installed).

Essentials is also needed for third other CODECs that use MOV as a container format - Avid DNxHD, Grass Valley HQ[X], etc.

A lot of people like Cineform, because it can use an AVI container (IIRC).
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iNate wrote:A lot of people like Cineform, because it can use an AVI container (IIRC).
Yes it does use an AVI container. I have had a good experience editing Cineform with VS.
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