Largest Project Size In VS 9

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Riker64

Largest Project Size In VS 9

Post by Riker64 »

Does anyone know what the biggest project size is that you can work on in VS 9? I current am working on a 1 hour long movie. I am at the halfway point and I keep getting a "not enough disk space" when compiling the video to raw uncompressed avi. I have a dedicated hard drive for this purpose - 114 GB free space. Currently the compiling bottoms out at 30 minutes, but if the project is 29 minutes, it completes and the size of the file is only 65 GB.

If 30 minutes is tops, I can break the project into 2 segments, but how would I join them to make a whole, after the avi's have been compiled, so I can compress to MPEG for DVD burning?

TIA,

-Tom
jchunter

Post by jchunter »

Tom,
Its not the Project file that is maxing out - its your hard drive space. The project file is quite small - just a list of file names and such.

Why are you working in raw uncompressed AVI? Stick with DV or Mpeg2 to save space.

In any case, you can break any long project into several projects, making an mpeg2 video file for each and then selecting them when you burn your DVD as explained in the top sticky post in this forum.
John
Riker64

Post by Riker64 »

If the 30 minute project results at 65 GB and I still have 49 GB space available, shouldn't I have enough room for a bigger project?

I use uncompressed AVI because I made some custom title image JPGs that I use and if I don't use this, when I compress to MPG with TMPEGenc, it looks terrible.

If I break the project into smaller video files, is there an option in DVD Movie Factory 4 that allows me to play these smaller video files as one, when the DVD plays?

-Tom
jchunter

Post by jchunter »

Tom,
1) Your point is logical but your computer is telling you its out of memory.

2) Its a simple process to use Video Studio to make a project video file - which, BTW, has to be Mpeg2 are you setting properties accordingly? Thirty minutes of mpeg2 (about 2 GB) is not going exceed your free disk capacity. Moreover, it also will not fill a DVD so why even think about compression with TempGenc?

3) I don't use Movie Factory, so I can't help you there. However, Video Studio allows you to place a large number of video files on a DVD. The main DVD menu can address each one and each can have a submenu of its own. The default setting is to play one after another from wherever you start playback.

IMHO, it is better to stick to one application for video because it is easier to debug problems.

John
Riker64

Post by Riker64 »

John,

I use TMPGenc because it is superior to the Ulead MPeg2 converter in quality of the video. I'll have to look around in MF4 to see what I can do. Maybe my mobo will support a 200 GB HDD, if so, I'll grab one of those.

Thx,

-Tom
scotty

Post by scotty »

Tom,

Just a thought is the disk formatted DMA or NTFS ?
DMA can put limits on sizes of files though I don't know what they are,
and I am not an expert !

Scotty
Riker64

Post by Riker64 »

My drive is formatted NTFS - should have no size limitation.

FYI: Your DMA reference should be called FAT32.

Thanx,

-Tom
scotty

Post by scotty »

Tom,

Just proved I'm not an expert!!
Having read up 4Gb is the max on FAT32 anyway.

However the fact that 65 Gb was the max size seems more than a
coincidence as 65,536 is obviously a special number in computing terms being 2^16?
Just a thought. :?

Mike
Riker64

Post by Riker64 »

I'm only bustin on ya when I mention about DMA/FAT32.

Anyway, that 65,535 number may be something, but I always thought that with NTFS, you could have a file as big as the entire available disk space.

-Tom
Gary-STFC

Working With AVI or MPEG2?

Post by Gary-STFC »

jchunter wrote:Why are you working in raw uncompressed AVI? Stick with DV or Mpeg2 to save space.
Hi John, I'm intrigued by your comment. I'm a relative newb on here, and on another thread I was advised to try not to keep changing the file format, so I stuck with the raw AVI captured direct from the camera. Would you say it is better to convert to MPEG2 first and then edit?
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Post by kebrinton »

Hi Gary.

jchunter has shown us that one can indeed work in MPEG2 format and not lose quality -- even edit and re-edit over and over.

However, I do not do that when my project is a simple hour or so. That's 13GB in .AVI format and I find that totally manageable. And that is why my mind reacts when I read riker64's post saying that one hour of his video now occupies 65GB of disk space! He must have captured totally without compression. I'm not surprised there are problems.

Surely he could have captured in .AVI and achieved entirely acceptable quality, indistinguishable from uncompressed, when finally he rendered to MPEG2.

Keith
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